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212X vs 212S limited

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I’m not a jet boat owner yet but making the switch from Sea Ray Sundeck to yamaha. Teenage kids looking to learn to wake surf and we ski and wakeboard.

Currently looking at 2 boats from 2017. 212X and 212 S limited. Looking to get details on the difference and which is more popular. Any help would be great.
 

afsigma21

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2 Major differences. (I went through this myself and bought a Limited S)

212X adds these things over a 212 Ltd S
1. Ballast Tanks
2. Upgraded stereo and soundbar on tower
3. Different color options
4. There is some speed control thing the X has for better speed control I think, I am unclear on exactly how this works or what its actually called.

We absolutely LOVE our 212 Ltd S. I added an 800w 8 channel amp and subwoofer myself, never need ballast tanks and the speed control thing is something I never missed not having.
 
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2 Major differences. (I went through this myself and bought a Limited S)

212X adds these things over a 212 Ltd S
1. Ballast Tanks
2. Upgraded stereo and soundbar on tower
3. Different color options
4. There is some speed control thing the X has for better speed control I think, I am unclear on exactly how this works or what its actually called.

We absolutely LOVE our 212 Ltd S. I added an 800w 8 channel amp and subwoofer myself, never need ballast tanks and the speed control thing is something I never missed not having.
Thanks
 

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We went with the 212x. For us, we wanted to be able to do be more or less ready to go out of the box. The big things for us were the upgraded sound system and the factory ballast, sure, these things can be added, and perhaps better options chosen aftermarket, but we didn’t want to fuss with anything extra.

We wanted to get in and go, so the x was the best bet in our eyes
 

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There is lots written up here about wake surfing with these boats. I would explore that some. I don't wake surf and the kids never really got into skiiing and wakeboarding. So I have little to contribute of substance except to observe that some have been unhappy with the wake or mods required to do surfing properly. There are several mods that help to clean up the wake, but I think you will find several who will say ballast is required and that your expectations should not be the same as with a true surf boat.
 
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Thanks for the detail and feedback. I’ll search the forum for topics
 

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I bought the 212X for pretty much the same reasons as @Whisky. that being said I’m upgrading the stereo from stock in any event.

The other thing you get with the X are the board racks. They are convenient as you can keep wakesurf and wakeboards (even skis) out of the boat.
 

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2 Major differences. (I went through this myself and bought a Limited S)

212X adds these things over a 212 Ltd S
1. Ballast Tanks
2. Upgraded stereo and soundbar on tower
3. Different color options
4. There is some speed control thing the X has for better speed control I think, I am unclear on exactly how this works or what its actually called.

We absolutely LOVE our 212 Ltd S. I added an 800w 8 channel amp and subwoofer myself, never need ballast tanks and the speed control thing is something I never missed not having.
I am buying a 212 Limited S this week. I will also add that the 212X includes the snap in seadek which was on the 212 limiteds in 17&18 but not this year for some silly reason. I’m going to buy them after market but that’s only $1k and the wet sounds stereo installed is another $2k+ Along with the ballast system and racks the $5k difference is justified I just don’t have a need for the ballast so I’m going to do the rest aftermarket on my own and maybe save a grand or two when it’s all said and done.

Would love to see pics of your stereo install. Sub and amp placement. Don’t want to highjack this thread so feel free to pm me. Thanks
 
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2 Major differences. (I went through this myself and bought a Limited S)

212X adds these things over a 212 Ltd S
1. Ballast Tanks
2. Upgraded stereo and soundbar on tower
3. Different color options
4. There is some speed control thing the X has for better speed control I think, I am unclear on exactly how this works or what its actually called.

We absolutely LOVE our 212 Ltd S. I added an 800w 8 channel amp and subwoofer myself, never need ballast tanks and the speed control thing is something I never missed not having.
The "cruise control" feature below the connext wheel? I thought the 212 had that too.
 

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It is not on my 17 212 Ltd S
 

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Definitely on my 212X.

@Bacchus_fl, I’ll post pictures of the stereo install when done. I have all the pieces but have not done the install yet. Essentially I’m adding helm speakers, 2 more amps and a JL subwoofer and rewiring.
 

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As far as I know, the 212X doesn't get the full "cruise" treatment as it doesn't have e-throtles but it does have cruise assist and no wake mode which allow for stepped rpm adjustments.

At least that's how my 2017 is.

Thoughts on cruise assist.... I like it, I find it is an easy way once we are surfing to bump rpm up and down a bit to keep it in the sweet spot.

Of course, fully integrated cruise would be the cat's meow, and I fully hope to upgrade to RideSteady eventually, but until then, I get by with cruise assist.... It's definitely better than nothing!
 

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As far as I know, the 212X doesn't get the full "cruise" treatment as it doesn't have e-throtles but it does have cruise assist and no wake mode which allow for stepped rpm adjustments.

At least that's how my 2017 is.

Thoughts on cruise assist.... I like it, I find it is an easy way once we are surfing to bump rpm up and down a bit to keep it in the sweet spot.

Of course, fully integrated cruise would be the cat's meow, and I fully hope to upgrade to RideSteady eventually, but until then, I get by with cruise assist.... It's definitely better than nothing!
Yeah that is the system I am referring to. I use it the most when in no wake zones or when cruising and getting the speed right where I want it. Used it a few times pulling a skier as well. Really enjoy having it.
 

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I am looking into the limited S as well. Not going into for watersports so the X really isn't in the conversation. You can probably aftermarket part mod a limited S to an X level or even better with the price difference. From what I've read on wakesurfing one of the aftermarket products (wedge, booster, or the new TV product is a must along with additional (beyond stock) ballast. So no matter what you pick you are going to have to spend more to surf. Something to think about.

The Limited S has an RPM based cruise control which isn't ideal for watersports, but may get the job done on certain days. Not sure if the X has something different or the same. I know it's not as nice as the e throttle boats cruise control. You can invest in something like ridesteady for GPS controlled.
 

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FWIW...I had the snap in sea dek in my ‘17 for one season and it was a pain in comparison to the carpet in my ‘09. Water will get under that faux SeaDek and the only remedy to dry it is to continually remove the carpets. At the beginning of last year I installed permanent SeaDek and it was worth every penny.

As others have said the differences between the S and the X is the ballast tanks, stereo upgrade, and speed control. If you want them out of the box, the X is the way to go. Otherwise you can spend a few weekends on the boat and add those items.
 

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FWIW...I had the snap in sea dek in my ‘17 for one season and it was a pain in comparison to the carpet in my ‘09. Water will get under that faux SeaDek and the only remedy to dry it is to continually remove the carpets. At the beginning of last year I installed permanent SeaDek and it was worth every penny.

As others have said the differences between the S and the X is the ballast tanks, stereo upgrade, and speed control. If you want them out of the box, the X is the way to go. Otherwise you can spend a few weekends on the boat and add those items.
I have never had any issues with my snap in sea dek not drying out, that's interesting. But I do love being able to pull them out and scrub them out of the boat.
 
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