NMEA 2000/Garmin/Yamaha Connext

[I know You know]

I have a brand new Yamaha 210 FSH and just installed a Garmin Echomap Plus 74 CV, would like to interface with the information from the Yamaha Connext, I have heard that the information is very limited, although Yamaha says it is NMEA 2000 compatible. Has anyone had any experience with this set up or similar set up, any input or info would be greatly appreciated. The picture attached is of what I have been told is the Yamaha connection for the NMEA 2000, not sure????

 

[Sbrown]

I have a brand new Yamaha 210 FSH and just installed a Garmin Echomap Plus 74 CV, would like to interface with the information from the Yamaha Connext, I have heard that the information is very limited, although Yamaha says it is NMEA 2000 compatible. Has anyone had any experience with this set up or similar set up, any input or info would be greatly appreciated. The picture attached is of what I have been told is the Yamaha connection for the NMEA 2000, not sure????

There has been some discussion around this subject. https://jetboaters.net/threads/possibly-some-new-info-on-nmea-2000-compatibility.16675/
Yamaha currently does not make an adapter wire to allow N2K connection to their system. @Mainah has done some experimentation which required a lot of effort with not much success. Nobody has managed to interface with Connext successfully at this point, that I'm aware of. I plan on trying my hand at it a little later this summer, as right now my time is tied up prepping the boat for the June Bimini run.

 

[Mainah]

Here is my thread on the joystick which I did decode and was able to interface with.

https://jetboaters.net/threads/connext-joystick-nmea-info.11513/

Takes some coding and electronics skills to be able to do this. I did even make my own perfect pass by interfacing with the joystick to iterate the cruise up amd down commands. Network speed and the 200 rpm resolution neted far less than ideal results but it did work. Hope someone can do better than I with decoding the rest of the proprietary pgns.

 

[I know You know]

There has been some discussion around this subject. https://jetboaters.net/threads/possibly-some-new-info-on-nmea-2000-compatibility.16675/
Yamaha currently does not make an adapter wire to allow N2K connection to their system. @Mainah has done some experimentation which required a lot of effort with not much success. Nobody has managed to interface with Connext successfully at this point, that I'm aware of. I plan on trying my hand at it a little later this summer, as right now my time is tied up prepping the boat for the June Bimini run.

Wow that is such a shame that they would mislead us like that, but I guess is not really a HUGE deal it would just all look so much better and the larger screen, but I guess well wait and see what comes up. So the connector in my picture is "the" Yamaha supposed connector for N2K?

On a seperate subject, good luck with you Bimini run, are you going solo or is there a Jetboaters group making the cross?

Thanks,

 

[Sbrown]

On a seperate subject, good luck with you Bimini run, are you going solo or is there a Jetboaters group making the cross?

https://jetboaters.net/threads/2018-bimini-june-trip-june-25th-june-30th.16253/

 

[Julian]

is there a Jetboaters group making the cross?

There are two groups going this year, one at the end of June (June 25th), one in mid July (July 9th). The cool folks are going in June

 

[Mainah]

Wow that is such a shame that they would mislead us like that, but I guess is not really a HUGE deal it would just all look so much better and the larger screen, but I guess well wait and see what comes up. So the connector in my picture is "the" Yamaha supposed connector for N2K?

On a seperate subject, good luck with you Bimini run, are you going solo or is there a Jetboaters group making the cross?

Thanks,

To be honest all of my testing was on a 24 foot connext 1.0 1.8l engines boat. The TR-1 engines or connext 2.0 may be different. In thinking about it I started hearing that Yamah claims n2k compatibily very recently and may have something to do with the tr-1 or connext 2.0. I know the had a lot of issues with screen delam, the multiple canbus protcols on connext 1.0, and folks complaining about n2k compatibility. For a feature of its type connext 1.0 was a very short product cycle before upgrading ao perhaps they listened.

 

[I know You know]

To be honest all of my testing was on a 24 foot connext 1.0 1.8l engines boat. The TR-1 engines or connext 2.0 may be different. In thinking about it I started hearing that Yamah claims n2k compatibily very recently and may have something to do with the tr-1 or connext 2.0. I know the had a lot of issues with screen delam, the multiple canbus protcols on connext 1.0, and folks complaining about n2k compatibility. For a feature of its type connext 1.0 was a very short product cycle before upgrading ao perhaps they listened.

So lets say that that is the case, how in the world can I find out, and isn't the connector the same as what you saw previously

 

[Mainah]

So lets say that that is the case, how in the world can I find out, and isn't the connector the same as what you saw previously

The connector is the same as you need can hi, can lo, +12vdc and -12vdc for n2k. The software/firmware could be updated to broadcast on standard pgns. The easiest way would be to hook up an actisense reader to see what is being broadcasted or take it someone who knows how to do that kind of thing.

 

[I know You know]

The connector is the same as you need can hi, can lo, +12vdc and -12vdc for n2k. The software/firmware could be updated to broadcast on standard pgns. The easiest way would be to hook up an actisense reader to see what is being broadcasted or take it someone who knows how to do that kind of thing.

Thanks Mainah, unfortunately you are speaking "French" to me.....LOL I think I'm going to reach out to a local Electronics pro and see what they can do.

 

[Mainah]

Thanks Mainah, unfortunately you are speaking "French" to me.....LOL I think I'm going to reach out to a local Electronics pro and see what they can do.

Sounds like a plan. Make sure you take it someone with custom NMEA experience. Make sure to update with results. In particular what standard PGNs are being used.

I am of French/Canadian heritage so .....

Jamapple Mainah. Tu parles Français?

And just because I am a bit of a geek here is some binary.

01001000 01101001 00100000 01101101 01111001 00100000 01101110 01100001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01001101 01100001 01101001 01101110 01100001 01101000 00101110 00100000 01000100 01101111 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01110011 01110000 01100101 01100001 01101011 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00111111

 

[I know You know]

Will do,,,,,,too funny BTW and no I do not Parles Francais...LOL. I will update the thread once I have been able to get more info or actually been able to have it linked. Thanks Mainah

 

[bronze_10]

I have a Garmin 74 dv/sv chart plotter... a Garmin 200i vhf radio and a fusion stereo (they are owned by Garmin). All are connected by a nmea 2000 backbone. Well i was in the boat today working on inputting gps stuff in the chart plotter and noticed the vhf radio and the plotter were not communicating. I checked the cables and everything but nothing helped. Out of curiosity I turned on my fusion stereo to see if the chart plotter could see the radio as it normally does. Once the fusion was on all three units started talking to each other. That's when I remembered the nmea 2000 has to be powered. The fusion radio must provide power to the backbone. It was an "AH HA"! moment for me..

 

[Bubblehead]

Any news on that plug labeled nmea? I too want to set up a back bone. Wires are labeled nmea+, nmea-,pwr, gnd. Service manual calls it nmea 2000. Plug looks similar to the Yamaha outboard command link adapter cable. Would like to know for sure before I start spending money on it.

 

[swatski]

01001000 01101001 00100000 01101101 01111001 00100000 01101110 01100001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01001101 01100001 01101001 01101110 01100001 01101000 00101110 00100000 01000100 01101111 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01110011 01110000 01100101 01100001 01101011 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00111111

01001110 01101111 00101110 00101110 00101110 00100000 01000010 01110101 01110100 00100000 01101101 01111001 00100000 01001101 01100001 01100011 01000010 01101111 01101111 01101011 00100000 01100001 01110000 01110000 01100001 01110010 01100101 01101110 01110100 01101100 01111001 00100000 01100100 01101111 01100101 01110011 00100001

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[GTBRMC]

01001110 01101111 00101110 00101110 00101110 00100000 01000010 01110101 01110100 00100000 01101101 01111001 00100000 01001101 01100001 01100011 01000010 01101111 01101111 01101011 00100000 01100001 01110000 01110000 01100001 01110010 01100101 01101110 01110100 01101100 01111001 00100000 01100100 01101111 01100101 01110011 00100001

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"Be sure to drink your Ovaltine"

 

[Bubblehead]

01001110 01101111 00101110 00101110 00101110 00100000 01000010 01110101 01110100 00100000 01101101 01111001 00100000 01001101 01100001 01100011 01000010 01101111 01101111 01101011 00100000 01100001 01110000 01110000 01100001 01110010 01100101 01101110 01110100 01101100 01111001 00100000 01100100 01101111 01100101 01110011 00100001

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@Mainah why would anyone speak binary? @swatski did you plug your MacBook into usb connection?

 

[Mainah]

@Mainah why would anyone speak binary? @swatski did you plug your MacBook into usb connection?

I was just being funny is the reason why I posted that here. It kind of fit given nmea transmits and receives hex values. I am also a coding, data, and quant supergeek for living.

 

[Sbrown]

01001000 01101001 00100000 01101101 01111001 00100000 01101110 01100001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01001101 01100001 01101001 01101110 01100001 01101000 00101110 00100000 01000100 01101111 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01110011 01110000 01100101 01100001 01101011 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00111111

01001110 01101111 00101110 00101110 00101110 00100000 01000010 01110101 01110100 00100000 01101101 01111001 00100000 01001101 01100001 01100011 01000010 01101111 01101111 01101011 00100000 01100001 01110000 01110000 01100001 01110010 01100101 01101110 01110100 01101100 01111001 00100000 01100100 01101111 01100101 01110011 00100001

01011001 01100101 01100001 01101000 00101100 00100000 01100001 01101110 01111001 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01110100 01100101 01111000 01110100 00100000 01100011 01101111 01101110 01110110 01100101 01110010 01110100 01100101 01110010 00100000 01100011 01100001 01101110 00100000 01100100 01101111 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00101110 00101110 00101110 00101110 01101110 01101111 00100000 01101101 01100001 01100111 01101001 01100011 00100000 01101000 01100101 01110010 01100101

 

[Mainah]

01011001 01100101 01100001 01101000 00101100 00100000 01100001 01101110 01111001 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01110100 01100101 01111000 01110100 00100000 01100011 01101111 01101110 01110110 01100101 01110010 01110100 01100101 01110010 00100000 01100011 01100001 01101110 00100000 01100100 01101111 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00101110 00101110 00101110 00101110 01101110 01101111 00100000 01101101 01100001 01100111 01101001 01100011 00100000 01101000 01100101 01110010 01100101

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