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I want to encourage those who may be still on the fence about receiving the vaccine to please consider it as it is our only effective measure against the Covid virus. You are 28 times more likely to contract covid being unvaccinated. I have worked on the front lines here in Michigan and have witnessed the carnage with no rhyme or reason how it is affecting young and old. Right now, we are in our third surge. I have been involved in our mass vaccination site at Ford field, where we have immunized over 140K people already. I am hoping for a return to normalcy. I recently purchased a 252SD have not even picked it up off the dealer lot yet because of our efforts to combat this virus. So please consider taking the vaccine to protect yourself, your family, and society as a whole.
 

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There are so many errors in that “article” it’s hard to know where to start.
So many errors in your error statement I don’t even know where to start.
See how dumb that sounds?
 

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This doctor has multiple board certifications and worked at the Mayo Clinic. All you internet medical professionals watch the video and maybe learn something.
Several of the people stating the majority of medical information on this thread are actual doctors, not internet medical professionals.

Others on here disagree with the vaccine as well but most are not being jackasses. Maybe learn something from them.
 

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Several of the people stating the majority of medical information on this thread are actual doctors, not internet medical professionals.

Others on here disagree with the vaccine as well but most are not being jackasses. Maybe learn something from them.
Name calling right away I see. Did you watch the video jackass? By the way could you please inform everyone where you got your medical degree.
 

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Name calling right away I see. Did you watch the video jackass? By the way could you please inform everyone where you got your medical degree.
Let’s see you implied anyone who got the vaccine is a sheep and then came back to call everyone internet medical professionals and imply they are making shit up without any knowledge of who they are.

You seem to write well so I can’t imagine it’s just an oversight in how you’re coming across.

I don’t have a medical degree and I haven’t pretended to know one damn thing about the science of it.

Everyone on this site is usually pretty respectful of each other. It’d be nice if you did the same while sharing your opinion.
 

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This doctor has multiple board certifications and worked at the Mayo Clinic. All you internet medical professionals watch the video and maybe learn something.
The problem with your statement is that you appear to use this guy's professional accreditation and his presumed Mayo Clinic affiliation as an indication of his credibility. Whereas no professional medical association, and certainly not Mayo Clinic, endorses this guy or the "information" he's spreading.

So, please make up your mind.

Do you consider the Mayo Clinic and American Boards of Medical Specialties as reputable and trustworthy? They do not endorse your guy.

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This country is so divided and IMO filled with hate for those that disagree with their thinking/belief. So many people are willing to fight based on what they have heard. So many people think their opinions are all that matters. Those that truly succeed have an open mind and the willingness to compromise. I hope we can get there. My $.02
 

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Let’s see you implied anyone who got the vaccine is a sheep and then came back to call everyone internet medical professionals and imply they are making shit up without any knowledge of who they are.

You seem to write well so I can’t imagine it’s just an oversight in how you’re coming across.

I don’t have a medical degree and I haven’t pretended to know one damn thing about the science of it.

Everyone on this site is usually pretty respectful of each other. It’d be nice if you did the same while sharing your opinion.
Thought I was being nice. I am just giving people facts and scientific data that everyone is saying that we should be following. Just because the doctor's I choose to follow do not follow the narrative that you chose to follow does not make them wrong. The level of vaccine shaming in this thread is a little overdone. I am not getting the vaccine at this time and I don"t know if I ever will. I have 5 medical professionals in my family and none of them are getting the vaccine. Half the people at the VA Hospital that I go to are not getting the vaccine. This does not make them bad people or uncaring. They listened to the facts presented by the information that was available at the time they made their decision. If You want to get the Vax I feel good for you. Just don"t try to convince me that I am wrong for not getting it.

There are compelling arguments for and against the Vax. I chose to not get it. End of story.
 

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Thought I was being nice. I am just giving people facts and scientific data that everyone is saying that we should be following. Just because the doctor's I choose to follow do not follow the narrative that you chose to follow does not make them wrong. The level of vaccine shaming in this thread is a little overdone. I am not getting the vaccine at this time and I don"t know if I ever will. I have 5 medical professionals in my family and none of them are getting the vaccine. Half the people at the VA Hospital that I go to are not getting the vaccine. This does not make them bad people or uncaring. They listened to the facts presented by the information that was available at the time they made their decision. If You want to get the Vax I feel good for you. Just don"t try to convince me that I am wrong for not getting it.

There are compelling arguments for and against the Vax. I chose to not get it. End of story.
That’s your right and I respect that.

If I misinterpreted your tone I apologize, sincerely.
 

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This country is so divided and IMO filled with hate for those that disagree with their thinking/belief. So many people are willing to fight based on what they have heard. So many people think their opinions are all that matters. Those that truly succeed have an open mind and the willingness to compromise. I hope we can get there. My $.02
I agree with this statement 1000%. I have my opinion and you have yours. I am entitled to mine and you are entitled to yours. I will not tell you your opinion is wrong and you should not tell me my opinion is wrong. Agreed.
 

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The problem with your statement is that you appear to use this guy's professional accreditation and his presumed Mayo Clinic affiliation as an indication of his credibility. Whereas no professional medical association, and certainly not Mayo Clinic, endorses this guy or the "information" he's spreading.

So, please make up your mind.

Do you consider the Mayo Clinic and American Boards of Medical Specialties as reputable and trustworthy? They do not endorse your guy.

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Please pay attention to the post above.
 

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Please pay attention to the post above.
I do.

Please, for goodness sake, there are no accredited medical associations or CAP/CLIA licensed institutions/labs ( such as Mayo) that would support the "information" regurgitated in the clip you posted.

Citing institutional names in quotes where they don't belong is misquoting them. It is not the right thing to do, if you really care.

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I do.

Please, for goodness sake, there are no accredited medical associations or CAP/CLIA licensed institutions/labs ( such as Mayo) that would support the "information" regurgitated in the clip you posted.

Citing institutional names in quotes where they don't belong is misquoting them. It is not the right thing to do, if you really care.

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Let me see if I get the jist of your statements. All the medical professionals that disagree with you are dumb, misinformed, not trustworthy etc etc etc. All the medical professionals that you agree with are giants in there fields and the most respected and smartest etc etc etc. Gotcha.

By the way I really don"t think you get the post above.
 

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So many errors in your error statement I don’t even know where to start.
See how dumb that sounds?
Maybe I am dumb. I don't get your point
 

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Let me see if I get the jist of your statements. All the medical professionals that disagree with you are dumb, misinformed, not trustworthy etc etc etc. All the medical professionals that you agree with are giants in there fields and the most respected and smartest etc etc etc. Gotcha.

By the way I really don"t think you get the post above.
I must have missed something in your post above, but I really am not sure what.

No, you did not get the gist of my statements. It could be my fault, I'm not a very good writer, or it could be that you are resorting to sarcasm, I can't tell.

What I was trying to communicate is this:
There will always be opinions. What matters is the consensus developed by experts in a process involving their work, and peer review of that work. In this context, the statements and opinions your posted/cited have zero merit, as there simply is no accredited professional medical association currently supporting the content of those quotes you provided.

You can choose to disregard the importance of accreditation and licensing in forming your opinions, but if that is the case why would you make statements like: "This doctor has multiple board certifications and worked at the Mayo Clinic". You can not simultaneously use "Mayo Clinic" or "American Boards of Medical Specialties" terms to try to shore up veracity of your statements while those very statements clash with everything those institutions are currently claiming as their official position.

It is not a joke, and it is not about my opinion, or yours.

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I must have missed something in your post above, but I really am not sure what.

No, you did not get the gist of my statements. It could be my fault, I'm not a very good writer, or it could be that you are resorting to sarcasm, I can't tell.

What I was trying to communicate is this:
There will always be opinions. What matters is the consensus developed by experts in a process involving their work, and peer review of that work. In this context, the statements and opinions your posted/cited have zero merit, as there simply is no accredited professional medical association currently supporting the content of those quotes you provided.

You can choose to disregard the importance of accreditation and licensing in forming your opinions, but if that is the case why would you make statements like: "This doctor has multiple board certifications and worked at the Mayo Clinic". You can not simultaneously use "Mayo Clinic" or "American Boards of Medical Specialties" terms to try to shore up veracity of your statements while those very statements clash with everything those institutions are currently claiming as their official position.

It is not a joke, and it is not about my opinion, or yours.

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Could you please show me where I said The Mayo Clinic or the American Boards of Medical Specialties endorsed what the Doctor was saying. I'll wait.
 

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This doctor has multiple board certifications and worked at the Mayo Clinic. All you internet medical professionals watch the video and maybe learn something.
Thanks for sharing this. The guy is dead on. I've done tons or research and he lines up 100% with the Whole Food Plant Based MD's.
 

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Thanks for sharing this. The guy is dead on. I've done tons or research and he lines up 100% with the Whole Food Plant Based MD's.
Be prepared to be pounced on by the pro vax crowd.
Look up the FLCCC website. Lots of good info on there by top doctors in their field. The top 2 Doctors with the Alliance have more peer reviewed articles in the top medical journals then everyone on this site combined.

Not saying they are right but something else to research.
 
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