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242X or 212X ballast intake... where to buy?

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Hah! Forgot about it, but you guys with those 21fters throw a mean wave!!!

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I'm window shopping on the Wakemakers site now - did you use ball type shut off valves at all? Also how thick is the hull at the transom? (just making sure my hole-saw set has the depth, or I'll buy one from WM as well). Thanks for input!
 

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I'm window shopping on the Wakemakers site now - did you use ball type shut off valves at all? Also how thick is the hull at the transom? (just making sure my hole-saw set has the depth, or I'll buy one from WM as well). Thanks for input!
I used ball valves when I did my last boat. I wanted a way to shut off the water just incase something happened.
 

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I considered and even purchased shutoff valves. Decided not to use them once I mocked everything as I convinced myself those would increase the risk of failure (apart from slowing the flow, too!) as those are very heavy and could easily rip out of the thin hull in rough water. Basically, the new Yamaha FRP hull is so thin I would not want to mount those heavy valves on the intakes/drains without significant reinforcements - no way! Would either need to use plastic valves/intakes or build reinforcements.

Besides, the reversible Johnson pumps work extremely well as valves.

Drilling holes in the hull is easy - it is just "skin", there is not core in those hulls.
I used SS intakes and planned the install very carefully - I mocked the size of the openings in plywood to make sure everything fits. Mounting those through hulls is pretty nerve wrecking.

Here is the "end result" - it is a very solid install, and I believe a better solution in these hulls - I have just short strait up (WM hose) runs up to the pumps in wet comps:
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After I let these cure for few days:
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Mock EVRYTHING!
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I wanted a nice and tight fit (bottom):
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Too tight:
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Dry run set-up:
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And then the least favorite part... 3M 5200.
I used an improvised tool to be able to have my trusty 16yo helper hold the drain in place from the outside/bottom while I install the nut and tighten it inside the hull - that was the worst part, and having done a dry-run was very important - before dispensing of the 5200!
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The end results were very good. I can not imagine those failing, and when I look at other OEM through-hull fittings I laugh (and ended up redoing several, the factory craftsmanship there is just pathetic... or lacking)
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All from WakeMakers. Here are some of the parts - I need to find the invoice
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I don't see that one on their site - only the bronze WM brand. No worries, I'll give them a call.
 

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the aux fill-port for swim platform bags and freshwater shower. Not sure my 212X has that anchor light blank spot though.
If installing pumps inside the wet storage compartment, there is space under the cushion to route the hose(s) without the need to install a more permanent port - just to check things out and see what you like.
Also - see how much you like those "quick connectors" if you have never used them before. I'm still on the fence. With a stiffer hose those can unlock very easily which can be annoying. But they are quick.

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If installing pumps inside the wet storage compartment, there is space under the cushion to route the hose(s) without the need to install a more permanent port - just to check things out and see what you like.
Also - see how much you like those "quick connectors" if you have never used them before. I'm still on the fence. With a stiffer hose those can unlock very easily which can be annoying. But they are quick.

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I'm going to go with Straight Line Link X connectors as my external bags are all the same brand.
I wish my boat had wet storage - no dice on the 212.
 
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