rescue7043
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- Green Bay, WI
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- Sugar Sand
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- 1996
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I have a 1996 SugarSand Mirage. I've had an issue with the boat not being able to accelerate above 10mph and when I do advance the throttle beyond a certain point I can hear the RPM's increasing, but the thrust is lost and the speed decreases until I back off the throttle. There are 2 parts to this issue that I will explain below.
Part 1: This happened last year, I took the boat in thinking the impeller needed to be replaced as I bought the boat used and had no maintenance records to go with. They ordered a new impeller for me, but stated that when they took the pump apart it appeared that there was no damage to the impeller or ring around it and did not advise on replacing at this point. They did notice that when I had the fuel lines replaced (previous owner only put the cheapest gas with ethanol in it and let it sit for 2 years) that the boat shop failed to put in inline fuel filter in. They replaced the filter, took it for a test run and it ran fine the whole rest of last season. Problem solved.... I thought.
Part 2: I've taken the boat out twice this year with NO issues at all, boat still running like a charm. Took it out yesterday expecting no issues at all. After traveling about 1 mile through Slow No Wake due to high waters on the river to the lake I finally got to the lake and opened it up. It was gaining speed, but could not get on plain and it felt like something was pulling it back. I opened up the hatch and the bilge is completely filled with water. I ran my bilge pump to clear out as much as I could and slowly made my way back to the ramp thinking maybe one of the drain plugs came out or was loose. I couldn't see an issue with water draining from where the drain plugs were once out of the water, but decided to remove them to drain the remaining water and I put in my brand new backup set of plugs just to be safe. While still on the trailer I backed the boat into the water and let it sit for a bit monitoring the bilge, could see no water coming in at all. Started the engine and same thing, so I thought I was good to go. Started my journey back on the river to the lake, constantly opening the hatch to check for water and it remained dry. Once I got out to the lake I slowly pushed the throttle and the boat would get to about 10mph and that's as fast as it would go. Open the hatch and see water in my bilge again. Can't figure out where on earth this water is coming from because any time I attempt to look there is already a descent amount of water in there and I can't see any flow.
At first I'm thinking a leaky seal that just needs to be resealed or replaced and I'll be back in business, but why wouldn't water come in when the boat is idling and only when under greater power. Also, why am I having this issue of little acceleration and high RPM's again. Are these two issues related or is it just a horrible coincidence that they both started at the same exact time? I know this boat is equipped with 2 tubes on each side of the pump(I've been boating my entire adult life, have a captains license and worked on mega yachts and I still have no freggin' idea what these things are called) that are supposed to suck up any water sitting in the bilge and flush it out through the pump when the boat is under power. They are faced towards the stern so I would guess that would help with any water in the boat so the bilge pump that is mounted forward of the engine doesn't have to work all the time. Could something be screwed up with these that when the boat is acting up the water is not being pumped OUT, but rather INTO the boat causing the water to come in?
I'm currently at a loss here. Will be taking the boat into the shop when I can get it in this week, but thought I would seek 'expert' advice on here first before having to search for my checkbook.
TIA for any and all assistance you can give.
Part 1: This happened last year, I took the boat in thinking the impeller needed to be replaced as I bought the boat used and had no maintenance records to go with. They ordered a new impeller for me, but stated that when they took the pump apart it appeared that there was no damage to the impeller or ring around it and did not advise on replacing at this point. They did notice that when I had the fuel lines replaced (previous owner only put the cheapest gas with ethanol in it and let it sit for 2 years) that the boat shop failed to put in inline fuel filter in. They replaced the filter, took it for a test run and it ran fine the whole rest of last season. Problem solved.... I thought.
Part 2: I've taken the boat out twice this year with NO issues at all, boat still running like a charm. Took it out yesterday expecting no issues at all. After traveling about 1 mile through Slow No Wake due to high waters on the river to the lake I finally got to the lake and opened it up. It was gaining speed, but could not get on plain and it felt like something was pulling it back. I opened up the hatch and the bilge is completely filled with water. I ran my bilge pump to clear out as much as I could and slowly made my way back to the ramp thinking maybe one of the drain plugs came out or was loose. I couldn't see an issue with water draining from where the drain plugs were once out of the water, but decided to remove them to drain the remaining water and I put in my brand new backup set of plugs just to be safe. While still on the trailer I backed the boat into the water and let it sit for a bit monitoring the bilge, could see no water coming in at all. Started the engine and same thing, so I thought I was good to go. Started my journey back on the river to the lake, constantly opening the hatch to check for water and it remained dry. Once I got out to the lake I slowly pushed the throttle and the boat would get to about 10mph and that's as fast as it would go. Open the hatch and see water in my bilge again. Can't figure out where on earth this water is coming from because any time I attempt to look there is already a descent amount of water in there and I can't see any flow.
At first I'm thinking a leaky seal that just needs to be resealed or replaced and I'll be back in business, but why wouldn't water come in when the boat is idling and only when under greater power. Also, why am I having this issue of little acceleration and high RPM's again. Are these two issues related or is it just a horrible coincidence that they both started at the same exact time? I know this boat is equipped with 2 tubes on each side of the pump(I've been boating my entire adult life, have a captains license and worked on mega yachts and I still have no freggin' idea what these things are called) that are supposed to suck up any water sitting in the bilge and flush it out through the pump when the boat is under power. They are faced towards the stern so I would guess that would help with any water in the boat so the bilge pump that is mounted forward of the engine doesn't have to work all the time. Could something be screwed up with these that when the boat is acting up the water is not being pumped OUT, but rather INTO the boat causing the water to come in?
I'm currently at a loss here. Will be taking the boat into the shop when I can get it in this week, but thought I would seek 'expert' advice on here first before having to search for my checkbook.
TIA for any and all assistance you can give.