Cheated on my Yamaha this weekend

[scokill]

Yeah I have no idea how he had his ballast set up while we were out. Also the one video of the wave by itself was taken when we were heading to a cove to anchor for lunch. I believe he had already slowed down at this point. He did a test run earlier in day to show us the wave on the goofy side and it was nice. It was curling like a wave you see in the ocean

I'm always a little leery of what I see on youtube. I see a bunch of surf boats on our lake and to be honest some of them don't come close to what I see online.

 

[007]

I'm always a little leery of what I see on youtube. I see a bunch of surf boats on our lake and to be honest some of them don't come close to what I see online.

Amen. Manufacturer Marketing photo shots are just that. Perfect senarios with tuned boats, great camera angles and maybe some photoshop too. It takes work and attention to consistently create a stellar wake. Often it takes extra ballast beyond what come stock too. That said, the wake9 guys are the real deal. They do add weight and surf with a ton of people ballast too, but they don't hide that.

 

[haknslash]

These waves look way better than the OPs. I'm assuming they have more ballast than stock and its position is finely tuned.

They are running 5200 lbs of ballast and a lot of people in the video totaling well over 13,000 lbs pushing through the water when you include the boat. No idea how the OP's buddy's boat is setup like but the standard ballast is 3,500 lbs. These boats will come stock with xxxx ballast but like many surf boats you can option them out to get large PnP bags. Also remember some of these boats come with subfloor ballast that is gravity/ram fed in addition to bagged ballast.

The wake9 folks are not pulling any wool over your eyes. They put on classes and do an event across the country. Real genuine folks if you ever watched any of his videos over the many years he's been at this. He has had several boats and has tested many more and knows how to make a good wave. The key to making a massive and powerful surf wave boat is a deep V hull, lots of ballast and lots of people. Not all surf boats have deep V hulls and not all surf boats throw out the same type of wave. Once you dig into surf boats you will see a lot of poeple throwing really nice waves but it's all in the seat time and setting them up. Once you get it dialed in and know how to make small adjustments depending on loads and water conditions you really can throw consistent, powerful waves with the right boat. Supra, Centurion, Tige, Supreme, MB, etc all of those boats have deep V hulls and throw nice waves.

 

[bobbie]

A curl like this??

 

[OrangeTJ]

Here's a pic from my MB F22 a week or two ago. No fancy angle or manipulation. This is about as far back as I can go and still recover. For reference I am 5'11, 200 lbs. When dialed, these boats put out good waves. I generally run about 4000 - 4500 lbs of ballast depending how many people are aboard. That Supra is no doubt suhweeeet!

 

[PaulyB]

I saw this while I was browsing today.... https://www.copart.com/lot/38849177

 

[OrangeTJ]

That thing seems to keep popping up for sale. It seems nobody wants to keep it. On the forums, it is known as the "Douche Canoe". I witnessed it in person once on Folsom lake and the owners definitely lived up to that name!

 

[MattFX4]

Yeah that's got bruh boat written all over it.

This is more my style...

 

[007]

Just for fun, these are not the best, nor the worst wave photos I have, but were taken with different camera angles. Sometimes people count is different (or they move) or the setup is different from one time to the next, sometimes it's just where you put the camera!

 

[haknslash]

 

[Chillypilot]

Man that's awesome Your killing me. Im seriously thinking of selling my boat. I make a nice wake but it's a lot of time and effort. I got my eye on a Super Air Nautique 230. The only thing holding me back is ride quality in the chop. My buddy has a smaller air nautique that rides like shit in the chop and you get a ton of spray inside the boat. These Supras are on the short list too.

 

[haknslash]

If you want a good ride you'll want a deep v hull. Any of the boats that are flat or semi-v at the transom are going to ride rough in the chop.

 

[OrangeTJ]

Nautiques are really at the top of the heap overall, in my opinion. However, I'd second the notion of looking at manufacturers who make deep v wakeboats if a smooth ride in chop is what you're looking for. Mastercraft, Supreme, Tige, MB, Moomba, Supra all make boats with a deeper V. We have an MB and it rides and handles quite a bit nicer in rough water than our SX210 did. Key with any of these is to demo them in the conditions you actually plan to use them once you buy them. When we demoed our MB, I went out on a day with 25 mph wind. Conditions on the main body of the lake were bad enough that I got a good feel for how the boat would act in chop but we were still able to find a sheltered area up in a fork to test out the wake and overall performance.

 

[0627Devildog]

No fancy camera angles here. . . .