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I have started bicycling and have been using an old Huffy hybrid that I have had for like 20 years. I am wanting to upgrade and was thinking about some different options. We have several bike shops in town and I have narrowed it down to about 4 different bikes....Trek, Cannondale, Scott and Orbea. I am looking for some input on what you all have had experience with. I am leaning more toward the middle of the road, as far as pricing goes, in looking at these bikes.

Thanks for the input.
 
Are you riding on the road, rail trail, or mountain biking?
 
I rock a Kona, and my wife a Specialized. Both are badass hybrids. I looked at Scotts, and was fairly impressed with them as well. Both the local shops I used offer great service and such, and that's pretty much the only reason I chose those 2. My Kona actually included free adjustments/tune ups for life (which now that I've been riding awhile, isn't really that big a deal). I don't think you can go wrong with any of the above mentioned, I'd look into what their after-sale support/service is like, as you'll probably have alot of questions/adjustments in the first year.
 
My look at Giant bikes.
 
Are you riding on the road, rail trail, or mountain biking?

I have been riding mostly paved trails and roads but would like the capability to ride a chat covered trail as well. Really not into the mountain biking thing...too many sport injuries.
 
Jim,
I have been cycling for over 20 years. I average around 100-150 miles per week on my road bike. I also mountain bike a lot. Just got back from a week in Colorado. Road 7 trails in 6 days and covered 160 miles all off dirt. I have had more bikes than I care to admit and my current bikes cost more than I will ever admit to. I get asked often by people I work with/family/friends about bikes. I'm going to let you in on a little secret I tell all newbies , don't spend money on the name on the frame. A "Trek" can cost $700 or $15,000, so not all "Trek's" are the same. (And by the way all the Trek's are way overpriced for what you get.) In the end you pay for lack of weight with bikes. A 14lb road bike is going to be $10,000 whereas at 28lb road bike is going to be $800. But ultimately the name doesn't matter, it's how the bike is built and what components it has. The big thing you want to look at is frame material (carbon, aluminum, steel). Carbon most expensive but very forgiving and very light. Most all bikes over $3000 will be carbon. Don't know your size either but most carbon stuff does have a weight limit (it's made for skinny racers). Steel is heavier, but forgiving and price ranges greatly depending on frame builder. Really unless you are spending a lot of money I would avoid a "cheap" steel frame. Aluminum probably most common in the price you are likely shopping, it's light but not forgiving and pretty harsh if riding on rough roads/paths. Road noise has a tendency to reverberate through that aluminum frame straight to your rear end. Next you need to look at components. Don't get caught up in how many speeds it has, doesn't matter. Most stuff you will be looking at will have Shimano components. Don't buy less than Shimano 105 if road bike. https://www.evanscycles.com/coffeestop/advice/shimano-road-groupsets-the-hierarchy/ It's not the lightest (ultegra or dura-ace) but for price it is a good compromise and will last a long time. The Tiagra stuff works but it's heavy and for the slight increase in price jumping to the 105 groupset is worth every penny. Then there's wheels/tires.....oh boy this could get long.

Not knowing anything about you, I suggest you look for a "gravel" bike or what they are calling "endurance" bikes now. Even a cyclocross bike would be good. All these bike will be much lighter and have better components than a "hybrid" bike and have the ability to run various tires sizes based on conditions/comfort level.

Bikes are like boats. They all have pros/cons and you can't find a single boat/bike that will do everything. That's why I have 1 road bike, 2 mountain bikes, an AR210, a fishing kayak, a canoe and a jon boat.

Let me know what price range and what style you are looking and I can point you in the right direction to some good websites where you can get some name brand closeout bikes for 50% off if you don't mind riding a 2015 version. One place to start is http://www.jensonusa.com/Sale/Complete-Bikes?noidx=1&by=Sale#productgrid and http://www.competitivecyclist.com/competitivecyclist/sale/Bikes/ccCat100157/cat.html
Good luck!
 
Jim,
I have been cycling for over 20 years. I average around 100-150 miles per week on my road bike. I also mountain bike a lot. Just got back from a week in Colorado. Road 7 trails in 6 days and covered 160 miles all off dirt. I have had more bikes than I care to admit and my current bikes cost more than I will ever admit to. I get asked often by people I work with/family/friends about bikes. I'm going to let you in on a little secret I tell all newbies , don't spend money on the name on the frame. A "Trek" can cost $700 or $15,000, so not all "Trek's" are the same. (And by the way all the Trek's are way overpriced for what you get.) In the end you pay for lack of weight with bikes. A 14lb road bike is going to be $10,000 whereas at 28lb road bike is going to be $800. But ultimately the name doesn't matter, it's how the bike is built and what components it has. The big thing you want to look at is frame material (carbon, aluminum, steel). Carbon most expensive but very forgiving and very light. Most all bikes over $3000 will be carbon. Don't know your size either but most carbon stuff does have a weight limit (it's made for skinny racers). Steel is heavier, but forgiving and price ranges greatly depending on frame builder. Really unless you are spending a lot of money I would avoid a "cheap" steel frame. Aluminum probably most common in the price you are likely shopping, it's light but not forgiving and pretty harsh if riding on rough roads/paths. Road noise has a tendency to reverberate through that aluminum frame straight to your rear end. Next you need to look at components. Don't get caught up in how many speeds it has, doesn't matter. Most stuff you will be looking at will have Shimano components. Don't buy less than Shimano 105 if road bike. https://www.evanscycles.com/coffeestop/advice/shimano-road-groupsets-the-hierarchy/ It's not the lightest (ultegra or dura-ace) but for price it is a good compromise and will last a long time. The Tiagra stuff works but it's heavy and for the slight increase in price jumping to the 105 groupset is worth every penny. Then there's wheels/tires.....oh boy this could get long.

Not knowing anything about you, I suggest you look for a "gravel" bike or what they are calling "endurance" bikes now. Even a cyclocross bike would be good. All these bike will be much lighter and have better components than a "hybrid" bike and have the ability to run various tires sizes based on conditions/comfort level.

Bikes are like boats. They all have pros/cons and you can't find a single boat/bike that will do everything. That's why I have 1 road bike, 2 mountain bikes, an AR210, a fishing kayak, a canoe and a jon boat.

Let me know what price range and what style you are looking and I can point you in the right direction to some good websites where you can get some name brand closeout bikes for 50% off if you don't mind riding a 2015 version. One place to start is http://www.jensonusa.com/Sale/Complete-Bikes?noidx=1&by=Sale#productgrid and http://www.competitivecyclist.com/competitivecyclist/sale/Bikes/ccCat100157/cat.html
Good luck!
Wow! I think I have found my info source for sure!!
I'm looking to stay under $1000. I'm 5'7 weigh 165. One bike shop said I would need a 15 size bike. I'm just getting started with this so I didn't want to go too crazy but want something better than I have now. I'm hoping to get the wife interested in this as well.
Thanks for the knowledge!!
 
At that price range don't buy a new bike. You will have a hard time selling it if you change your mind, as they are dime a dozen in that price range. Plus you can easily get a really nice high end used bike for $1000. Go to bike shops, figure out what you want and more importantly what size. Road bikes you are probably at a size 53, which is a 15 or a "small" in mountain/hybrid bikes. Most mountain bikes have gotten away from the 13, 15, 17, etc sizing and gone to XS, S, M, L etc. If in doubt about sizing, go smaller. You can make a small bike bigger, longer stem, longer seatposts, bigger handlebars, but you can't make a large bike smalller. But either way once you figure out what you like and what size you are hit craigslist, ebay, etc. There are a lot of people that buy a bike to get in shape ride it 2 times, then it hangs in the garage for 3 years then they sell it for next to nothing. Take advantage of their lack of motivation. Even if it shifts like crap and tires are flat, doesn't matter. As long as it looks clean, no rust, bike shop can put all new cables, give it a tune-up, adjustment, install new tubes for probably around $150 and it will ride just like that brand new bike.

A fine example:
https://springfield.craigslist.org/bik/5682085015.html
same bike new http://www.competitivecyclist.com/diamondback-haanjo-comp-105-complete-road-bike-2016 without the upgrades he has made and all the other crap he wants to get rid of because his wife is tired of looking at it in the garage.

And at your size you're not too fat for carbon :D
 
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