Low Hours Boat Requiring Decision on Engine

[Hugh S.]

Hello all! I would like to receive advice on the following:

I have a 2010 SeaDoo 210 Wake (430 hp super charged). The boat is at Greenwood Lake NY. It only has 30 hours. The portside engine was, from the current shop I use, determined to be 'no good' because the cylinder walls are out of spec and the decks on the cylinder head and motor are not straight.

Right now, the mechanic would like to swap the motor for an SBT engine. I have heard mixed reviews on SBT albeit that their quality may be better more recently. The mechanic, who is on Greenwood Lake and also has the marina, is confident this is the best solution.

Questions:
1. SBT vs salvage/rebuild this exisitng motor?
2. If option two (rebuild existing) anyone know a shop in the North East that can actually do this?

Photos:
1. Cylanders 2. Quotes 3. Full engine 4. Photo of the boat



Thank you so much for any and all advice!!!!

 

[Dave burke]

I know nothing about SBT engines so can’t comment on that. If I’d were you I’d be asking a lot of questions about his “no good”. How much out of spec? How important is this spec? Can the heads not be planed to make them fit straight? Why does this problem exist on engines that have only 30 hours? Etc.

The biggest problem with the BRP super charged engines as I understand it is the super chargers will eventually have to be rebuilt which could be expensive. But that could be a ways off with only 30 hours.

The other thing that makes me suspicious is why can’t this mechanic rebuild it? Seems a bit sketchy to me but I’m a little skeptical by nature.

not sure where Greenwood Lake is but the mechanic I take my boat to is very good IMO. He’s at Roberts in Malone.

 

[Ronnie]

If you go with SBT, buy the two year warranty as well. They sell a one year or two year warranty, it matters. One year is what you buy if you are going to sell immediately, two years is what you buy if you plan to keep the boat.

 

[Hugh S.]

Understood, I appreciate the advice!

If you go with SBT, buy the two year warranty as well. They sell a one year or two year warranty, it matters. One year is what you buy if you are going to sell immediately, two years is what you buy if you plan to keep the boat.

 

[Hugh S.]

I know nothing about SBT engines so can’t comment on that. If I’d were you I’d be asking a lot of questions about his “no good”. How much out of spec? How important is this spec? Can the heads not be planed to make them fit straight? Why does this problem exist on engines that have only 30 hours? Etc.

The biggest problem with the BRP super charged engines as I understand it is the super chargers will eventually have to be rebuilt which could be expensive. But that could be a ways off with only 30 hours.

The other thing that makes me suspicious is why can’t this mechanic rebuild it? Seems a bit sketchy to me but I’m a little skeptical by nature.

not sure where Greenwood Lake is but the mechanic I take my boat to is very good IMO. He’s at Roberts in Malone.

Got it. Just googled for it, Can-Am, Sea-Doo, & Ski-Doo Motorsports Dealer in Malone NY | Roberts Sports of Malone is this it? I appreciate it, thank you!

 

[OCMD]

Or, do not buy an SBT at all. SBT = COMPLETE GARBAGE. Warranty or not. I am basing this on personal experience, with a 2 year warranty - and only put about 30 hours on it in 2 summers and within one month out of warranty, it blew. They are built NOT TO LAST. Mind you, this was on my LS2000 2 stroke, but once a POS company always a POS company IMO. Failures are legendary. Google it. Then I had a local guy rebuild one and to this day, it is still going. I sold it 10 years ago. The reason the Yamaha blew was becuause I popped an oil line off. This was a design flaw with the 2 strokes where they didn't allow enough play in the line and over 6 years the lines became brittle, popped off (plastic ties - yea incredible) and burned the engiine with no oil This was a common occurrence back them and unfortunately I was one of the first to experience/publish the issue, back on the other yamaha site which had a wealth of 2 stroke knowledge. Take it as you want it, but you have been warned. Don't do it. And why can't your "mechanic" rebuild it? I'd run from this guy.

 

[Hugh S.]

Or, do not buy an SBT at all. SBT = COMPLETE GARBAGE. Warranty or not. I am basing this on personal experience, with a 2 year warranty - and only put about 30 hours on it in 2 summers and within one month out of warranty, it blew. They are built NOT TO LAST. Mind you, this was on my LS2000 2 stroke, but once a POS company always a POS company IMO. Failures are legendary. Google it. Then I had a local guy rebuild one and to this day, it is still going. I sold it 10 years ago. The reason the Yamaha blew was becuause I popped an oil line off. This was a design flaw with the 2 strokes where they didn't allow enough play in the line and over 6 years the lines became brittle, popped off (plastic ties - yea incredible) and burned the engiine with no oil This was a common occurrence back them and unfortunately I was one of the first to experience/publish the issue, back on the other yamaha site which had a wealth of 2 stroke knowledge. Take it as you want it, but you have been warned. Don't do it. And why can't your "mechanic" rebuild it? I'd run from this guy.

Noted - I greatly appreciate the advice!

 

[Jim_in_Delaware]

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The biggest problem with the BRP super charged engines as I understand it is the super chargers will eventually have to be rebuilt which could be expensive. But that could be a ways off with only 30 hours.

My understanding is that the older supercharger rebuild is about $1,000. Or about $500 if you remove the supercharger and send it away and then reinstall it yourself. (This was the pricing a couple of years ago.) Expensive? The newer superchargers are suppose to be maintenance free.

Jim