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LMAO....Fins or Thrust Vectors or Trim Tabs WILL NOT help the issue!
Bow and stern deadrise angle...plain and simple, its not rocket science. These (Yamaha) lake boats do not have the hull design for open water. You need 21 degree minimum deadrise angle, preferable 24 degree deadrise.
I've been running my 06 SX230 on the open ocean for 6 seasons now with very few issues. I'm using the Cobra Ultimates adjusted for down all the time running and have no trim tabs. We aren't shore huggers either as we boat to many islands in Nantucket and Vineyard Sounds. These aren't the BEST boats for the open ocean but they do a pretty good job of holding their own. It's probably easier to blame the equipment until the skill level catches up but LMAO probably isn't a very constructive reply unless you've tried the available fixes with no success.
I've been running my 06 SX230 on the open ocean for 6 seasons now with very few issues. I'm using the Cobra Ultimates adjusted for down all the time running and have no trim tabs. We aren't shore huggers either as we boat to many islands in Nantucket and Vineyard Sounds. These aren't the BEST boats for the open ocean but they do a pretty good job of holding their own. It's probably easier to blame the equipment until the skill level catches up but LMAO probably isn't a very constructive reply unless you've tried the available fixes with no success.
I think that was the biggest mod in my 190, absolutely a game changer! - the Ultimates set up down at speed, plus the Fangs. Still not at all the same "planted" feel of a lower unit but a huge difference nonetheless.
With the new 240 hull however the difference the ultimates (or AKs) make is far less palpable at speed.
I can confirm that trim tabs on 230 makes a great difference. My lenco limited space tabs cost me less than $500 after watching eBay for a few months. (Inclusive of the indicator led control switch, optional on the lenco)
To each his own. Any open bow boat can be argued as not optimal for ocean trips, but you lose a lot of seating area for a small boat.
It seems band aids are a fix as Yamaha has adapted to some of our band aids. "Necessity is the mother of invention". Rather than quit we, as a group, have invented and adapted. To address your other comment, "jet boats are great when used as they were designed and intended for...fresh water". It seems that manufacturer's like Hinkley, Scarab and the US military would disagree with that comment. The world of boating is evolving and most of us, as a group, are evolving with it.
I have to laugh at this, "designed and intended for fresh water". I'm not sure what year and model boat you have, but my 17' ar240 handles the 1'-3' average day wave heights in the Gulf of Mexico extremely well. Not sure if its the boat or my experience, but the wife even states that this boat rides better in chop and larger waves than any of our other boats! We've owned a Century 2200cc and a Bayliner discovery 246 since we've lived in Fl. and she even wants to go out more with this boat.
I have to laugh at this, "designed and intended for fresh water". I'm not sure what year and model boat you have, but my 17' ar240 handles the 1'-3' average day wave heights in the Gulf of Mexico extremely well. Not sure if its the boat or my experience, but the wife even states that this boat rides better in chop and larger waves than any of our other boats! We've owned a Century 2200cc and a Bayliner discovery 246 since we've lived in Fl. and she even wants to go out more with this boat.
So far I haven't thought about them on this boat. I just installed Jeff's cobra jet steering system on my boat this past weekend but have yet to try them due to rainy weather.
I have to laugh at this, "designed and intended for fresh water". I'm not sure what year and model boat you have, but my 17' ar240 handles the 1'-3' average day wave heights in the Gulf of Mexico extremely well. Not sure if its the boat or my experience, but the wife even states that this boat rides better in chop and larger waves than any of our other boats! We've owned a Century 2200cc and a Bayliner discovery 246 since we've lived in Fl. and she even wants to go out more with this boat.
And I have to laugh at your post, not sure what type of water experience you have, but 1-3 footers in the gulf is equivalent to glass here on the Atlantic. Hilarious 1-3 ft is even considered Seas. Point proven
And I have to laugh at your post, not sure what type of water experience you have, but 1-3 footers in the gulf is equivalent to glass here on the Atlantic. Hilarious 1-3 ft is even considered Seas. Point proven
This is average, so when talking about the atlantic and 6' plus waves, you would need at least a 40' contender boat to be comfortable. Your comparing apples to oranges here bud. So if your taking out your jet boat in 6' plus waves daily, you sir have made the wrong choice in boats. I'm just proving my point that jet boats are not solely made for fresh water and they can handle chop well and small waves. I don't want someone new reading your post and getting the wrong information on jet boats.
I agree the expectation seems to be off. Weight displaced and size are bigger factors than propulsion with that kind of weather. Coming from a lighter 18ft boat to my 230 it handles fenomenal compared. If you expect to brave high seas in confort you will need a much bigger boat regardless of propulsion method.
This is average, so when talking about the atlantic and 6' plus waves, you would need at least a 40' contender boat to be comfortable. Your comparing apples to oranges here bud. So if your taking out your jet boat in 6' plus waves daily, you sir have made the wrong choice in boats. I'm just proving my point that jet boats are not solely made for fresh water and they can handle chop well and small waves. I don't want someone new reading your post and getting the wrong information on jet boats.
Haha that's funny, I've ran my ar240 in those conditions plenty of times. Your showing videos of small rollers, very easy to drive in. I'll thought these videos were going to be rough seas! I just leave it here, you can't fix stupid.
Haha that's funny, I've ran my ar240 in those conditions plenty of times. Your showing videos of small rollers, very easy to drive in. I thought these videos were going to be rough seas! I just leave it here, you can't fix stupid.
Last response for you, I stated to be COMFORTABLE you would need a 40' boat in large waves. Anyone can take any size boat out in 6' seas, would I want to be boating and taking water over my bow all the time soaking the interior and my passengers no that is not COMFORTABLE. I can take my 24' ar out right next to yours in this video you posted and do the same thing. Again, your video is not doing you any justice, your in small rollers and still slapping your bow down and soaking the interior. What are you trying to prove? I never stated you can't take out a smaller boat in 6' waves so don't twist my words. Your giving out dumb information on this JET BOAT site
Last response for you, I stated to be COMFORTABLE you would need a 40' boat in large waves. Anyone can take any size boat out in 6' seas, would I want to be boating and taking water over my bow all the time soaking the interior and my passengers no that is not COMFORTABLE. I can take my 24' ar out right next to yours in this video you posted and do the same thing. Again, your video is not doing you any justice, your in small rollers and still slapping your bow down and soaking the interior. What are you trying to prove? I never stated you can't take out a smaller boat in 6' waves so don't twist my words. Your giving out dumb information on this JET BOAT site
I have a question, can I take my AR240 on Lake Superior, its fresh water but has rough days. I think the Edmund Fitzgerald sank there. So I guess I'm okay with an open bow, no trim tabs and Cobra Super Ultra Deep fins .
