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Stereo sounds like crap when cranked up

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hello everybody

i just put a new pyle marine radio in my pontoon any ideas why it would sounds garbled broke up when cranked? my 1st guess was not enough juice so i installed dual battery's, no change so now back to square 1.

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Get rid of the pontoon and buy a jet boat. All stereos sound better on the jet boat. :)

Also, lots of issues to work through here. Initially I wonder if you just are playing music to loud? Typically distortion starts at 70% of volume on low end systems. If it's clear all the way up to 70%, but sounds like hell at 80%, then you're just cranking it too loud. Other things to consider:

First, speakers could be blown. You can test this by pressing on the speaker cone with the system off (not in the middle, on the inside edge). If you hear any noise as you apply pressure on and off to the speaker, it's toast.

Second, do you have an amp? Is it cranked to much?
 

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What source are you using? Many folks overdrive a line in as they use it for an Aux input and overdrive that input causing distortion. Adjust the volume on the source device. Another is MP3's which may be recorded at all sorts of levels as well.

But Anmut's advice is where it's probably at.
 

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What source are you using? Many folks overdrive a line in as they use it for an Aux input and overdrive that input causing distortion. Adjust the volume on the source device. Another is MP3's which may be recorded at all sorts of levels as well.

But Anmut's advice is where it's probably at.
Had this on my buddys boat this past weekend. Using the Wetsounds A-Link to connect his boat to mine. The "Volume" on the A-Link was set too high, and was giving him all kinds of crappy distortion. Reduced the "volume" on the input, and increased volume on the stereo itself and it cleaned right up.
 

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Get rid of the pontoon and buy a jet boat. All stereos sound better on the jet boat. :)

Also, lots of issues to work through here. Initially I wonder if you just are playing music to loud? Typically distortion starts at 70% of volume on low end systems. If it's clear all the way up to 70%, but sounds like hell at 80%, then you're just cranking it too loud. Other things to consider:

First, speakers could be blown. You can test this by pressing on the speaker cone with the system off (not in the middle, on the inside edge). If you hear any noise as you apply pressure on and off to the speaker, it's toast.

Second, do you have an amp? Is it cranked to much?
howdy thanks for the reply
i gota jet boat and it does sound better but i`m in my 60`s so i dont think i`m playing it to loud? well ok maybe i do remember saying the Alice Cooper concert i went to in the 70s was hard to hear.

the radio and speakers came together as a set so there about 5 months old like the receiver.

no amp i have one in the shop and never put it in.

im starting to think like another poster said. it may be in the wires, i did think when i installed it the wires looked to small but i figured the factory knew what size wires to use but i bet the factory stereo wasnt a powerful as this one im guessing and it goes through a switch on the dash also before i can power it on maybe bypassing all that crap and going to the battery will stop all this.? thoughts?

what about like in a car or truck, going directly to the battery from the stereo?

thanks fer the reply
 

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What source are you using? Many folks overdrive a line in as they use it for an Aux input and overdrive that input causing distortion. Adjust the volume on the source device. Another is MP3's which may be recorded at all sorts of levels as well.

But Anmut's advice is where it's probably at.
when you say line you mean wires correct? if so i`m thinking just that because its all factory wires and going through a switch on the console to. so like i said in the other reply i think im going to go with at least #10 for a power wire from battery to radio.

thanks for the reply and idea
be safe
 

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when you say line you mean wires correct? if so i`m thinking just that because its all factory wires and going through a switch on the console to. so like i said in the other reply i think im going to go with at least #10 for a power wire from battery to radio.

thanks for the reply and idea
be safe
Line-in. A source device being set to high. Over driving a line-in.
Let the amps do the work. Like someone plugging a phone in with volume set at max. It will be crap. Or a Bluetooth adapter or a link like listed above.
 
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I had a Pyle head unit and speakers in one of my previous boats, like your system, it sounded like crap with the volume turned up. Until I bought and installed an amp (4 channel non marine alpine at first, replaced by a six channel Pyle amp later). I think an amp and a little tuning of the same will resolve your high volume problem and since you already have an amp on a shelf it wouldn’t cost you much at all financially plus maybe an hour of time. just don’t go overboard on/with the amps (like I did) or you may end up creating power/battery/charging problems for yourself (like I did).
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Line-in. A source device being set to high. Over driving a line-in.
Let the amps do the work. Like someone plugging a phone in with spline set at max. It will be crap. Or a Bluetooth adapter or a link like listed above.
ah ok. ill check on that but when i was out there this morning i looked and noticed all the wires are 16 Gauge to include power and speakers. im no expert on stereos but do know about 2way radios and i know that is way to small of a wire for this setup. and i do have a brand new amp in a box with all the power wires for it and will be installing it this week end and have to go to town to get the other wires.

thanks
 

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I had a Pyle head unit and speakers in one of my previous boats, like your system, it sounded like crap with the volume turned up. Until I bought and installed an amp (4 channel non marine alpine at first, replaced by a six channel Pyle amp later). I think an amp and a little tuning of the same will resolve your high volume problem and since you already have an amp on a shelf it wouldn’t cost you much at all financially plus maybe an hour of time. just don’t go overboard on/with the amps (like I did) or you may end up creating power/battery/charging problems for yourself (like I did).
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i like what i see on your system but i`m not going that far but
i think thats a good idea. im going to put my amp in this weekend and upgrade thr wires to the rest of the system and see what happens.

thanks
 

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im going to put my amp in this weekend and upgrade thr wires to the rest of the system and see what happens.

thanks
I recommend That you start with the amp installation and see if it solves your problem before you go rounding new speaker lines and possibly mining for old speakers lines. It may save you some time, frustration (possibly from getting fiberglass splinters) and even a little money.
 

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roger that. yes going to install the amp first. it comes with #4 or #6 power wire cant remember, but i know thats enough for the amp
 
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