17 Mastercraft NXT VS 18 Yamaha 242x

[OrangeTJ]

Cool

 

[J-RAD]

Do people really use the head in these things?

We use ours. My wife is not native to boating and for some unfathomable reason has the inability to urinate in the water...? I keep it onboard so I don't have to drive 3 miles back to the marina every time she has to pee.

It's illegal to drop a deuce in the lake here, which rarely happens (can't remember a time) when we were out on the water. I'd make a special trip back for that. The cleanliness of the beaches at Lake Powell have really improved since they started enforcing poport-a-pottys.

So, I for 1 see it as a necessity.

 

[Ancient canoe]

No thanks on the boat pooper. Yes to a big storage compartment. We are potty training our 2 year old now, and there is zero percent chance I'm bringing those nightmares to my boat. It's not just my kids either my aim is often questionable at best.

 

[d_coyne1984]

Mastercraft makes really nice boats, but in my opinion and experience, they aren't the best option outside of watersports. Wake boats are basically a shiny tractor where a Yamaha is more like an SUV. If you really want to surf, go Mastercraft because a Yamaha will NEVER produce the same level of satisfying wave like an inboard wake boat. The trade-off though is smaller interior space, they are slow (like 35mph slow with a high alt. prop which is what you want/need for surfing), thus very inefficient for cruising, and they are very heavy to tow for their size. You also pretty much double the chance that you will hit something and do serious damage to your boat. My buddy just did $10k in damage to his when the prop grabbed a log and jammed it between the hull. If you want a good all around boat, go Yamaha. If you want a great tow big for water sports, go Mastercraft. Personally though, I would look at the Supreme's over the Mastercraft. The ram fill ballast is the shit and their hulls produce a better wave.

 

[biffdotorg]

Mastercraft makes really nice boats, but in my opinion and experience, they aren't the best option outside of watersports. Wake boats are basically a shiny tractor where a Yamaha is more like an SUV. If you really want to surf, go Mastercraft because a Yamaha will NEVER produce the same level of satisfying wave like an inboard wake boat. The trade-off though is smaller interior space, they are slow (like 35mph slow with a high alt. prop which is what you want/need for surfing), thus very inefficient for cruising, and they are very heavy to tow for their size. You also pretty much double the chance that you will hit something and do serious damage to your boat. My buddy just did $10k in damage to his when the prop grabbed a log and jammed it between the hull. If you want a good all around boat, go Yamaha. If you want a great tow big for water sports, go Mastercraft. Personally though, I would look at the Supreme's over the Mastercraft. The ram fill ballast is the shit and their hulls produce a better wave.

I agree with this pretty much 100%. The first line does remind me that we are very close minded when it comes to boats. We only see the products that are significant in the world we live, or the region we live in. Both Yamaha and Mastercraft produce monster boats outside of the boating world that we all reside in.

Even though I agree that Mastercraft builds really nice Tow Boats, I cannot agree that they are not the best outside of Watersports. They are just not the best outside of watersports in our region. They in fact produce more revenue annually selling very large cabin cruiser boats than they probably do in tow boats. There are just not in my region, so I often forget that they are even in that market.

As I said, I agree with what you said, but I have to admit my own ignorance when I forget about MasterCraft as a master yacht builder. As we hardly ever see boats on our lakes larger than 35ft. I do understand the point you were making.

 

[Ancient canoe]

Mastercraft makes really nice boats, but in my opinion and experience, they aren't the best option outside of watersports. Wake boats are basically a shiny tractor where a Yamaha is more like an SUV. If you really want to surf, go Mastercraft because a Yamaha will NEVER produce the same level of satisfying wave like an inboard wake boat. The trade-off though is smaller interior space, they are slow (like 35mph slow with a high alt. prop which is what you want/need for surfing), thus very inefficient for cruising, and they are very heavy to tow for their size. You also pretty much double the chance that you will hit something and do serious damage to your boat. My buddy just did $10k in damage to his when the prop grabbed a log and jammed it between the hull. If you want a good all around boat, go Yamaha. If you want a great tow big for water sports, go Mastercraft. Personally though, I would look at the Supreme's over the Mastercraft. The ram fill ballast is the shit and their hulls produce a better wave.

You can't discount the shiny aspect though. Just like automobiles 90% of us would be driving around in a smart car if our car actually fit our needs.

 

[d_coyne1984]

I agree with this pretty much 100%. The first line does remind me that we are very close minded when it comes to boats. We only see the products that are significant in the world we live, or the region we live in. Both Yamaha and Mastercraft produce monster boats outside of the boating world that we all reside in.

Even though I agree that Mastercraft builds really nice Tow Boats, I cannot agree that they are not the best outside of Watersports. They are just not the best outside of watersports in our region. They in fact produce more revenue annually selling very large cabin cruiser boats than they probably do in tow boats. There are just not in my region, so I often forget that they are even in that market.

As I said, I agree with what you said, but I have to admit my own ignorance when I forget about MasterCraft as a master yacht builder. As we hardly ever see boats on our lakes larger than 35ft. I do understand the point you were making.

I actually had no idea they made anything other than tow boats. Do they sell their yachts under the Mastercraft name?

 

[OrangeTJ]

Hmm. I've never heard of Mastercraft making cruisers. They don't show up on their website or in a quick Google search I ran. I would say this - if looking at inboard wake boats, don't limit your search to one brand. There are many to consider in that similar price bracket, some of which might suit you better than others.

 

[haknslash]

Maybe he means like the Mastercraft 300 cruiser? http://www.yachtsmanmagazine.com/reviews/MasterCraft300.html

 

[007]

What you are buying with the Mastercraft is a great watersports boat our of the box. No offense to anyone here, but the Yamaha is still not a "great" watersports boat out of the box. However, you are giving up other features if you chose the Mastercraft over the Yamaha.

That said:

• Yamahas are amazing swiss army knives of boats with an "adequate" surf wake from the new system. Start playing around and there is more to be had out of the wave.
• Dedicated wake boat boat guys still add weight, bags, wedges in search of the perfect wave.
• Unfortunately, 70k doesn't buy all that much today when talking NEW boats.
• The Mastercraft NXT is not in the top 3 of my favorite surf waves, but might be in yours.

Now that I've pissed everybody off , chose what you like (and I do like shiny!) and enjoy it!!! Life is too damn short to worry about haters.