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2020 AR195 lacking top speed

bbrown58

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Boat Make
Yamaha
Year
2020
Boat Model
AR195
Boat Length
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Curious if anyone can’t point me in the direction of what else to check. It seems everyone with the AR195 is topping out around 46-49mph. My boat will not go above 35mph. It is running WOT at 7450 rpm which seems to be on par with Yamaha 7500 spec. I just put new iridium spark plugs in it. Last year it got the solas impeller, lucky cone and upgraded air filter. I run 93 premium fuel and I have checked the speed with phone gps it is topping out at 35 mph. Located in Ohio so altitude shouldn’t be a factor. I wet slip the boat can the sludge really cost me close to 15mph top end? Any thing else to check?
 
I believe the solas impeller will limit your top speed because it is designed for low end torque. Was the boat faster before the additional mods? I have the same boat completely stock and it will do 48 with two people.
 
I took mine back to the dealer because I thought I had a problem with too end speed. They water tested it and got it up to 50 just like when we bought it new. Now it was one guy in the boat with nothing in it because I had taken everything out and 1/2 tank of gas. When I went to pick it up I tested it myself with my wife and sure enough it was fine. With the two of us in the boat it would only go 49. So there was nothing wrong. I must be carrying too many people and crap around to get it to go faster at the lake.
 
The OP has not been around since September of 2024.. so perhaps we will never know if he corrected his issue.

The AR190 uses the normally aspirated 1.8L.

Here is what I see right up front, he was running fuel that is 6 points higher in octane that what the manual calls for, which I believe is 87, but could be 86 like mine. Contrary to what some may believe 93 and 87 octane have the same amount of btu’s per gallon, but the 93 burns slower in an engine that does not require it as the cylinder pressure is lower than an engine that has higher cylinder pressure whether by mechanical compression ratio, or forced induction like a super charger. Running higher octane fuel in an engine that does not require it actually lowers horse power and creates higher heat in the cylinder as the burn of the fuel is so much slower it continues to burn past 60* of crank rotation, chasing the piston down the bore. Running iridium spark plugs in an engine not designed for them just creates more negative cash flow, and may not last as long as the oem plugs.

The OP said he lives in OH so altitude shouldn’t be a factor, not true, if it is really hot and really humid it will raise the density altitude and affect horsepower. I checked Columbus OH, altitude 780’ on a 95* day with a dew point of 70*, that raises the density altitude to just over 3500’, and a 10% power loss. Having said that, the OP reported 7450 rpm so that wasn’t necessarily the issue unless there was some impeller damage and the impeller was not fully loaded.

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You can check your own locations density altitude by using this online calculator

Since we can’t ask any questions.. I’ll answer yes, sludge build up on the bottom of the boat can dramatically affect the boats overall top speed. We also cannot ask; how much fuel was in the boat, how much cargo / people weight-this is huge, where was the people weight if any located?, what was the sea state, oil level correct?, impeller clearance good?

I’ve also seen people who were testing the lucky 13 cone report top speed loss.. so not so lucky on that front, but they alleviated some cavitation issues.. everything is a compromise you just have to find the one that suits your situation the best.

As far as the impeller goes.. just having a solas impeller doesn’t mean much, what matters is what the pitch and blade shape were and how is the gap between the impeller and the wear ring. It is possible the solas impeller the OP was using was under pitched or underpropped and he was on the rev limiter. Again, no way to ask a question, why did you put a Solas impeller in the first place? If the reason was it was over pitched / over propped and the rpms were below rated rpm, and the impeller was purchased to raise the rpms then the jet pump will not pump the same amount of water at a given rpm. I boat at high altitude, density altitude in the summer can get above 9000’, so I got some different impellers and had them pitched for high altitude use, I got a lot more performance at the cost of roughly .3-.5 mpg, but my top speed increased dramatically, from 29mph in some cases to upper 30’s, and even 41 in other cases.

As you can see, there are a lot of questions to ask when a lot of the relevant information is missing that can affect top speed.
 
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I’m curious about the fuel. I run non ethanol fuel in the boat. Is that overkill for what you stated here as far as it’s a much higher octane than what the manufacturer calls for? I could just run 87 and be just fine?
 
I’m curious about the fuel. I run non ethanol fuel in the boat. Is that overkill for what you stated here as far as it’s a much higher octane than what the manufacturer calls for? I could just run 87 and be just fine?
Define “much higher” please.

You can run ethanol laced fuel just be sure and use Star Tron treatment with any fill up to prevent any issues with ethanol fuels phase separation issues.
 
I’m curious about the fuel. I run non ethanol fuel in the boat. Is that overkill for what you stated here as far as it’s a much higher octane than what the manufacturer calls for? I could just run 87 and be just fine?
Yamaha superchargers needs min 91 but recommend 93. You can run 87 at times if needed but with the SVHO you can get knocking, engine damage and the performance is going to suffer because the engine runs hotter with higher compression.
 
I’m curious about the fuel. I run non ethanol fuel in the boat. Is that overkill for what you stated here as far as it’s a much higher octane than what the manufacturer calls for? I could just run 87 and be just fine?
Does your boat have a svho engine?
 
Define “much higher” please.

You can run ethanol laced fuel just be sure and use Star Tron treatment with any fill up to prevent any issues with ethanol fuels phase separation issues.
Sorry not much higher. But I have never used Star Tron treatment when filling up.
 
Yes it does.
Then you run premium 91 octane gas like the manual says to.

If you’re running Non ethanol fuel you do not need Star Tron. My boat only requires 86 octane, so I mix 85 & 91 non ethanol gas in the correct proportion to get 86.
 
I’m curious about the fuel. I run non ethanol fuel in the boat. Is that overkill for what you stated here as far as it’s a much higher octane than what the manufacturer calls for? I could just run 87 and be just fine?
Here’s what your owners manual states
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If you run lower octane fuel than 91 there’s a very strong possibility you’ll destroy your engine.
 
Well that is very helpful thank you.
 
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