650lb Fat Sac for 19s

[kgower]

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With 850lbs on the stern and the wakebooster, we can surf ropeless up to about 220lb surfer. Speed is 9.2 to 9.8 mph depending on the rider.

Thise are close to the stock dog bones. Will probably have to go with those.

 

[Tlcaffall]

2017 ar190
Lucky 13 cone
Ribbon delete
Ride steady
650lb ballast on the rear.

It worked at 1500 ft elevation at home but not at 3500 ft elevation at lake powell. I couldn't get to surf speed at higher elevation and had to remove weight from the ballast. I was then not able to go ropless at 190lbs, but my two kids could at less than 125lbs a piece....

3 videos: notice the wave size not the rider skill. First two videos speed is 10.8, last one speed is 10.3.
1st is without 650lb fatsac (I think I may have had my old 350lb sac on the rear)
2nd is with fatsac
3rd is with fatsac half full at Powell (I couldn't surf ropeless but I could foil) also I can surf the slingshot coaster at full ballast but not the hyperlite broadcast.

 

[JBehrens]

2017 ar190
Lucky 13 cone
Ribbon delete
Ride steady
650lb ballast on the rear.

It worked at 1500 ft elevation at home but not at 3500 ft elevation at lake powell. I couldn't get to surf speed at higher elevation and had to remove weight from the ballast. I was then not able to go ropless at 190lbs, but my two kids could at less than 125lbs a piece....

3 videos: notice the wave size not the rider skill. First two videos speed is 10.8, last one speed is 10.3.
1st is without 650lb fatsac (I think I may have had my old 350lb sac on the rear)
2nd is with fatsac
3rd is with fatsac half full at Powell (I couldn't surf ropeless but I could foil) also I can surf the slingshot coaster at full ballast but not the hyperlite broadcast.

Is that from Powell this year? If so, hows the lake doing? Got a trip coming up in two weeks. Thanks!

 

[Tlcaffall]

Yes just got back this last Wednesday. Launched at state line. House boat out of Antelope Point. Didn't have to wait in line to launch. Quite a bit of traffic through the "narrows" as Castle Rock cut off is high and dry. Once out on the lake it was awesome. Plenty of water to play on. Still 350ft deep in the channel.

 

[Farny]

Are you guys using the wakebooster also or just the fatsacs? Not sure if I want to spend the money on the wakebooster, it is way overpriced in Canada.

No wakebooster for me. I tried a couple homemade versions but little to no difference. But I surf goofy which is the cleaner side. Single engine wave isn’t very dirty anyway. Not worth 1k but that’s my opinion

 

[quiksilver81]

Does anyone have any images of how you have the 650lb ballast tied down? I am curious to see what others are doing.

 

[Farny]

Does anyone have any images of how you have the 650lb ballast tied down? I am curious to see what others are doing.

I used a rope to the tube tow hook. Loop through the ballast loops & just enough to reach the hook, easy peasy. I found only needs a little placement surf side. That way I only moved the 150 cube left or right for reg or goofy riders.

 

[Tlcaffall]

If you look at the last video, I use a piece of 7/64 amsteel blue (weight rated to 1100lbs). I run it from the tower base on one side through the fat sac handles to the tower on the other side.

If you really want to surf the AR190 (Ar195 may be a different story), I would recommend picking up a foil and learning that. It is a steep learing curve maybe try a surf board first and watch lots of videos, but it is so nice to surf without worrying about ballast and regular vs goofy.

 

[quiksilver81]

Thanks for the replies. I used two ropes and tied it from the rear trailer tie downs to the base of the wakeboard tower. Just wasn’t sure if the tower is a good place to tie it to.

It sucks that the new version of the fatsac doesn’t have the large handles anymore, they are just eyelets to feed rope through.

 

[CA Sterling Archer]

Looking to buy the 650lb FatSac for my 2013 192 so we can make a better surf wave. Website says it’s for 2017 and newer. Did the swim platform change that much or do you think it should fit fine on the older swim platforms? Also looking at getting either 1 or 2 155lb cubes and possibly a 400lb sac as well. I know it’s easy to spend someone else’s money, but thoughts on what would make the best surf wave? Normally have 2-3 adults and 2-4 preteens on the boat. Thanks!

 

[jcyamaharider]

Has anyone used this 650 lb ballast on their 19, results?

Fly High Yamaha Jet Boats Custom 19 FatSac (650lbs) | WakeMAKERS

Hit me up or go to the website www.wakwedge.surf. We can get you taken care of and point you in the right direction. We have a couple of YouTube videos showing rope-less surfing behind your boat and as the designer of that bag our name is one it, so we stand behind it working!

 

[kgower]

Hit me up or go to the website www.wakwedge.surf. We can get you taken care of and point you in the right direction. We have a couple of YouTube videos showing rope-less surfing behind your boat and as the designer of that bag our name is one it, so we stand behind it working!

I will check it out. We added a 365lb to the ski locker and it made a big difference, when combined with the 400lbs from the wakebooster package.

 

[jcyamaharider]

Looking to buy the 650lb FatSac for my 2013 192 so we can make a better surf wave. Website says it’s for 2017 and newer. Did the swim platform change that much or do you think it should fit fine on the older swim platforms? Also looking at getting either 1 or 2 155lb cubes and possibly a 400lb sac as well. I know it’s easy to spend someone else’s money, but thoughts on what would make the best surf wave? Normally have 2-3 adults and 2-4 preteens on the boat. Thanks!

Same goes for you CA Sterling Archer. We have been doing this for many customers and can point you in the right direction.

 

[Farny]

I will check it out. We added a 365lb to the ski locker and it made a big difference, when combined with the 400lbs from the wakebooster package.

I recommend that 650, it’s what we used. Worked great. Place it in center & Use a 200 on the surf side seat. We only used the cube when it was fewer crew on the boat. The 650+350center + 6 crew = cavitation.

 

[kgower]

I recommend that 650, it’s what we used. Worked great. Place it in center & Use a 200 on the surf side seat. We only used the cube when it was fewer crew on the boat. The 650+350center + 6 crew = cavitation.

650 in the center might be a solution. I ride goofy, so throwing all the stern ballast to my surf side isn't the best if I also have "regular" riders on the boat.

 

[Farny]

650 in the center might be a solution. I ride goofy, so throwing all the stern ballast to my surf side isn't the best if I also have "regular" riders on the boat.

Same - we had 2 goofy and the others regular. I used the 650 centered on platform, (ok maybe I cheated it a couple inches goofy side ). moved a 150 cube to either goofy or reg, depending on who was surfing. Rest was moving crew. Found the boat does like a bit of bow weight so sometimes the cube was in the bow when everyone wanted to sit in back and watch. Helped fight cavitation from all the weight.

 

[kgower]

Same - we had 2 goofy and the others regular. I used the 650 centered on platform, (ok maybe I cheated it a couple inches goofy side ). moved a 150 cube to either goofy or reg, depending on who was surfing. Rest was moving crew. Found the boat does like a bit of bow weight so sometimes the cube was in the bow when everyone wanted to sit in back and watch. Helped fight cavitation from all the weight.

I saw a video a while back that said you should put some weight (people or ballast) in the bow opposite the surf side. I do it with people, when possible, but will probably pick up a bad for the bow. My adult sons can go ropeless. I have been doing some research and the board I'm using is probably a little short for me. I think I have narrowed down the right board but haven't pulled the trigger yet.