Fixing the 242x Ballast system.....

[jcyamaharider]

Finally I am taking the steps to make the 242X perfect for me. Like everyone knows putting 3 high volume pumps in line with one intake is a major flaw. Even the 212x has 2 thru hulls for its ballast system. Any ways here is what I am doing I have ordered 2 more thru hull fittings and I am going to install them on the flat right above the articulating keel. I am going to use one for just the port ballast bag pump and the other for my transom bag fill pump. I have most everything on order and I will post pictures as I progress.

So far tonight we have taken the port bag factory hose off and the flow rite fitting out. I will then plug it with an NPT fitting.


I have also mounted my transom bag pump and drilled and mounted my quick connect hose port.







Last I have made up my quick connect hose for the transom bag.





More pics to come as parts come in.....

 

[Scottie]

Yes!

 

[Scottie]

Is that the WakeMakers premium hose for the quick fill port? I used that for my integrated bags, but was afraid it would be too stiff for the fill port. I'm just using the clear hose that came with the tsunami pump right now, but its not stiff enough and kinks easily, so I'm going to replace it.

 

[ilangtry]

Finally I am taking the steps to make the 242X perfect for me. Like everyone knows putting 3 high volume pumps in line with one intake is a major flaw. Even the 212x has 2 thru hulls for its ballast system. Any ways here is what I am doing I have ordered 2 more thru hull fittings and I am going to install them on the flat right above the articulating keel. I am going to use one for just the port ballast bag pump and the other for my transom bag fill pump. I have most everything on order and I will post pictures as I progress.

So far tonight we have taken the port bag factory hose off and the flow rite fitting out. I will then plug it with an NPT fitting.
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I have also mounted my transom bag pump and drilled and mounted my quick connect hose port.

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Last I have made up my quick connect hose for the transom bag.


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More pics to come as parts come in.....

What connectors did you use for the transom fill connection? Love this idea.

 

[jcyamaharider]

Is that the WakeMakers premium hose for the quick fill port? I used that for my integrated bags, but was afraid it would be too stiff for the fill port. I'm just using the clear hose that came with the tsunami pump right now, but its not stiff enough and kinks easily, so I'm going to replace it.

It is @Scottie ,I had it laying around. Just an fYI, I can get the same hose if you need.

 

[BigAbe75]

You’ll be ready for the new event at the Shelbyville gathering. The “Timed Ballast Fill/Drain Contest”.

 

[jcyamaharider]

What connectors did you use for the transom fill connection? Love this idea.

So down below I am using the flow rite fitting that came out of the factory manifold and it just so happened to thread right into the fitting that I have up top.

PT Coupling Basic Standard Series 10A Polypropylene Cam and Groove Hose Fitting, Poly A-Adapter, 1" Adapter x NPT Female: Camlock Hose Fittings: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific


This is the fitting that is on the hose. On the other end is the flyhigh quick connect fitting.


* EDIT* Whoops forgot to post the other part.

PT Coupling Basic Standard Series 10C Polypropylene Cam and Groove Hose Fitting, Poly C-Coupler, 1" Coupler x Hose Shank: Camlock Hose Fittings: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific


@Scottie used these fitting first and I really liked how they lock on.

 

[jcyamaharider]

Edit above for @ilangtry . A link for the other connection.

 

[swatski]

You’ll be ready for the new event at the Shelbyville gathering. The “Timed Ballast Fill/Drain Contest”.

I'm ready!

https://jetboaters.net/threads/2016-240-ballast-setup-question-valves.12541/page-8

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[swatski]

Finally I am taking the steps to make the 242X perfect for me. Like everyone knows putting 3 high volume pumps in line with one intake is a major flaw. Even the 212x has 2 thru hulls for its ballast system. Any ways here is what I am doing I have ordered 2 more thru hull fittings and I am going to install them on the flat right above the articulating keel. I am going to use one for just the port ballast bag pump and the other for my transom bag fill pump. I have most everything on order and I will post pictures as I progress.

So far tonight we have taken the port bag factory hose off and the flow rite fitting out. I will then plug it with an NPT fitting.
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I have also mounted my transom bag pump and drilled and mounted my quick connect hose port.

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Last I have made up my quick connect hose for the transom bag.


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More pics to come as parts come in.....

The pumps in the wet compartments are a no brainer, they don;t get hot and if something gets lose it won't flood engine comparment.
keeping it simple is the key! I am looking forward to your testing, want to know the best ballast setup for regular side surf!

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[jcyamaharider]

Made a trip to Lowes after work and the UPS guy brought me th rest of my goodies!




So I quickly got to installing everything. Drilled my holes for the thru hulls.




Then I ran the wiring for the pump while I was waiting on the wife to get home from work. This is the best place I could think of for a temporary switch placement for this weekends water test. It is out of the way and will not get bumped by accident.







Once the wife got home we installed the thru hulls and then the ball valves. I hate 8200. It may not look the best but everything is sealed.






Finished the ballast hoses and I just have to reinstall everything tomorrow.

 

[J-RAD]

Made a trip to Lowes after work and the UPS guy brought me th rest of my goodies!

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So I quickly got to installing everything. Drilled my holes for the thru hulls.

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Then I ran the wiring for the pump while I was waiting on the wife to get home from work. This is the best place I could think of for a temporary switch placement for this weekends water test. It is out of the way and will not get bumped by accident.


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Once the wife got home we installed the thru hulls and then the ball valves. I hate 8200. It may not look the best but everything is sealed.

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Finished the ballast hoses and I just have to reinstall everything tomorrow.

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I should really consider flipping my pumps the way you have them mounted. I accidentally bumped the switch on the ski locker ballast while crossing lay weekend and obliterated the impeller... it would be so much easier to access the impellers with the pump end above the motor... I just wasn't sure if that was taboo...?

 

[swatski]

I should really consider flipping my pumps the way you have them mounted. I accidentally bumped the switch on the ski locker ballast while crossing lay weekend and obliterated the impeller... it would be so much easier to access the impellers with the pump end above the motor... I just wasn't sure if that was taboo...?

You probably shouldn't, not a taboo but the whole idea with mounting those pumps the impeller head down is to prevent water intrusion, a slow leak, into the pump body. With the head down your pumps will live longer. Or so they say! lol.

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[jcyamaharider]

I have had those style pumps mounted on 2 boats now and I have never seen them leak. I have had to change impellers and that is why I mounted that other pump like that. Plus the 3 in the engine compartment came like that. I find it nice to just have to pull off a cover instead of an entire pump to replace the impeller.

 

[Brad460]

What is going on here? lol

Id have trouble sleeping at night with that mess

 

[jcyamaharider]

What is going on here? lol

Id have trouble sleeping at night with that mess


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You ever try to tighten nuts with 8200 around them in a deep cavity.......Didn't think so.

 

[swatski]

3M 5200 is very hard to make “pretty” but that is also one of the main reasons why it works so well - it spreads!

That said, mine are prettier!!!

I'm making progress, but it is a LOT of work.
I will start a new thread when I'm a bit more advanced and when I know it's working.

I finished what I think was probably one of the most taxing and stressful jobs I have ever done on any boat (and that includes transom rebuilds). I installed the intakes/drains. Very happy with the results, I will fill in the details - there is a lot to it.
Here is just a quick pic or two of the finished product:
(outside - right over the "rudder")
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(inside - I'm gonna need a chiropractor, lol)
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[jcyamaharider]

3M 5200 is very hard to make “pretty” but that is also one of the main reasons why it works so well - it spreads!

That said, mine are prettier!!!
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I am not worthy...lol

 

[swatski]

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[Mainah]

I noticed that there seemed to be a bit of back pressure on the pump after filling the custom bag with air and then pumping water into it because the tiny hole in the threads on the air plug was not allowing enough volume to escape vs. the amount of water volume being pumped in. I drilled that hole through to the other side of the threads with a 7/32 drill bit. Did not time it but bag seemed to fill a bit faster after doing that and certainly had less pressure but enough to keep its shape. Perhaps that had already been covered but figured I would share.