thrust vector spray and turning ability

[kyle]

So we have about 35 hours on our 2017 AR195. All but the 10 hour break in period have been with thrust vectors installed. I get a terrible fine mist on the back of the boat. When it was really hot I didn't mind. But now that the weather has cooled and we were just cruising the river the mist has made the entire rear of the boat unusable. It was terrible. And if the windshield is closed the pressure difference even gets me wet in the captain seat. Is this normal? Is it because of the TVs? I don't remember this being an issue on day one when we took the boat out without them.

And a secondary question. When trying to turn to the left at higher speeds, like going back to pick up a tuber the boat does not turn worth a crap. Turning right is much better, but I have never been able to spin it around like videos I have seen on youtube. Is this because of the newer rudder design that the older 192s didn't have? Are the thrust vectors affecting this? I tried to turn around on the river last week after my sister's hat flew off and like to never got turned around going left. I am still a new jetboater and am loving it but expected better tight turning ability at higher speeds, and hate the mist at slower speeds

 

[Cobra Jet Steering LLC]

You may want to investigate the new VIPER for your boat check the reviews on this web page . here is just one of many links https://jetboaters.net/threads/viper-cobra-jet-steering.14912/page-3#post-265900

 

[kyle]

You may want to investigate the new VIPER for your boat check the reviews on this web page . here is just one of many links https://jetboaters.net/threads/viper-cobra-jet-steering.14912/page-3#post-265900

Interesting. This may be a winter purchase. I need to convince my wife that we need this

 

[Cobra Jet Steering LLC]

Do not tell her because once she drives the boat with it installed you will become just another passenger, ask anyone who has already made that mistake .
another post https://jetboaters.net/threads/viper-cobra-jet-steering.14912/page-3#post-265412

 

[Wayloncle]

I'm pretty sure @JetBoatPilot has a fix for the spray. It'd be worth it to give them a call and see what they can do for it.

 

[jcyamaharider]

^^^^^^^ , Will has a fix for the spray and you cannot spin the newer boats because of the articulating keel. It has nothing to do with the Thrust Vectors.

 

[Cobra Jet Steering LLC]

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[elcue]

^^^^^^^ , Will has a fix for the spray and you cannot spin the newer boats because of the articulating keel. It has nothing to do with the Thrust Vectors.

I don't think he means spinning the boat. He says he can barely turn left. I don't have any fins but that doesn't normal at all regardless of the keel...Id check into something else.

 

[jcyamaharider]

I don't think he means spinning the boat. He says he can barely turn left. I don't have any fins but that doesn't normal at all regardless of the keel...Id check into something else.

This is copied from his text: " , but I have never been able to spin it around like videos "

Going from my 2008 Ar230 to this new boat there is a huge difference in turning at high speeds. It does take awhile to come around. Take it off of plane and it turns better

 

[elcue]

I understand that. He also says he cant turn left for crap. That seems like an issue with his boat. I cant imagine anyone bought a boat with the articulating keel saying I cant turn left and that being normal.

 

[jcyamaharider]

The OP says he is a new jetboater , so is his perception of it not turning at all really that? Does he just expect it to spin on itself? I don't know, we are all just assuming. I have not been on a single engine articulating keel boat to know what it should do or not do. I do know what my articulating keel twin engine boat will do, and it takes a little longer to turn at higher speeds.

I will agree with @elcue that if not on plane and you are trying to turn left and it doesn't turn then something else is faulty.

 

[elcue]

Got ya.

 

[NewBoater]

To spin mine more while going fast I just let off of the throttle (throttle back) then turn the steering wheel hard one side and keep it turned hard over and then throttle up/rev it hard forward again . I have the Cobra Jet steering and love it. Not a complete spin out but have plenty of fun doing it this way.

I have twin engines and Cobra jet ultimate with fangs. But I do not have the articulating keel

 

[haknslash]

2016 boats had the rudder as well so it's not a 195 thing. The issue I've been told with turning left is pump loading. My boats does the same thing and always has. Another guy I know his does the same. Just how it is.

 

[kyle]

Im the OP. Just to clarify, yes I can turn left at high speed it just takes forever and what feels like a football field to do so. If I'm off plane it will turn very fast and no issues. It definitely turns much much faster and tighter going to the right while on plane. As far as spinning it...... I dont think I have pushed it to its max to spin out because I have always had my family onboard but even the boattest.com guy made it look easy. And the thing is I dont really even care to spin out, I just thought that if he was spinning out I could be able to turn my boat around on plane in less than a football field distance width. I am going to watch the video again and see which way he turns. I bet its to the right? I just watched. They do spin it to the right

 

[Neutron]

I have the AK cobras with fangs and prior it didnt turn tight at all. Now it turns tighter than any boat i have driven

 

[elcue]

Is this pump loading issue just on newer boats? I feel like I can turn left fine at all speeds.

 

[Cobra Jet Steering LLC]

They staggered the pitch of the impellers to compensate for both engines turning in the same direction thus loading differently on one side however they do not do this any more. Some people do it themselves when they change impellers.

 

[elcue]

He has a single engine

 

[Cobra Jet Steering LLC]

That is what happens when I answer a post B/C haaa. however single engines load differently one side to the other due to the pump loading easier on one side so turning is more difficult on opposite side .