Trouble re-fueling.

[justamon]

Since owning my 2019 FSH 190 sport for a month now, I've tried filling the gas tank with negative results. I have tried different gas stations. I end up having to keep pulling the lever until I guess I have at least a half of a tank worth of fuel. I don't think that's normal. I have not noticed anyone mentioning such a problem re-fueling there boat as of yet. I'm hoping there is a simple solution. I'm OK with being embarrassed as long as I get a solution. Feel free. Not my first time re-fueling a boat. That's why I'm confused.

 

[Dixie Highway]

Sounds like the charcoal canister may be plugged, or possibly a vent line to it. Had the issue in a car once, never a boat, maybe they don’t have charcoal canisters but I’d check the vent line for sure.

 

[Liveto99]

Pull the nozzle out a little bit? Also don’t fill as fast as you can try at half speed, if that does not work call or show dealer it is not normal.

 

[Seadeals]

Not the same boat by any means; but mine fills best with the nozzle inserted “gangsta style”.

 

[swatski]

At most gas stations when filling up I can feel the air/gas fumes blowing out of the gas vent, with my hand next to it.
I agree, that could be the issue?

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[Ratket]

Maybe check where the fuel line runs into the gas tank and make sure there isn’t a sharp bend anywhere

 

[CDENsomnia]

I had a similar problem on my 2012...I believe it was caused by the quality of fuel I was using. I started using marina fuel which was triple filtered. etc and that seemed to improve the situation ever so slowly. I also removed the vent to make sure nothing was plugging it but didn't find anything. I personally run through fuel pretty quickly so I never really worried about ethanol fuel to be used in the boat but I have to admit I think thats what caused this or just "junk" in the fuel getting caught in the canister.

*with the new boat I swore to never use ethanol fuels to prevent this from happening.

 

[swatski]

I had a similar problem on my 2012...I believe it was caused by the quality of fuel I was using. I started using marina fuel which was triple filtered. etc and that seemed to improve the situation ever so slowly. I also removed the vent to make sure nothing was plugging it but didn't find anything. I personally run through fuel pretty quickly so I never really worried about ethanol fuel to be used in the boat but I have to admit I think thats what caused this or just "junk" in the fuel getting caught in the canister.

*with the new boat I swore to never use ethanol fuels to prevent this from happening.

That canister filters vapor not fuel, right?
I'm not sure any overt worries about ethanol damage are well justified in the new boats, those fuel/ignition systems are the same as cars and trucks, there is no issue with ethanol. If the fuel sits for a long time with no conditioner that is a different scenario, water from condensation likes to mix with ethanol containing fuels better than non-ethanol (and cause issues). But that wouldn;t effect fill-ups.

Those vapor canisters are loaded with charcoal-something (?) and can clog up. Repositioning the gas nozzle (pulling out and/or turning it) might help if that is the case.

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[B0at1n]

I had a fill isue with my 19 190 if I have it at full speed. But if I put it in the slowest click it works with no issues. Just takes an extra minute.

 

[biffdotorg]

That canister filters vapor not fuel, right?

But that wouldn;t effect fill-ups.

Repositioning the gas nozzle (pulling out and/or turning it) might help if that is the case.

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Exactly, this is not a "type of fuel" conversation. This is purely a filling the tank issue. It wouldn't matter if the pump was filling his boat with pure water or gasoline based on the problem he is having.

That being said, I feel the air venting as well. And you can hear it as it fills. You can many times hear when the nozzle starts to back up before the pump clicks. So if it is clicking off often, just back it down to a slower speed, or pull the nozzle out partially. It works for me that way.

Good luck!

 

[Joshua Miller]

I second the air vent comments. Had the same issue with mine. Noticed the holes on the vent cap had exfoliation on them, pulled the cap, cleaned it with alcohol and a paint brush, reinstalled and problem went away.

 

[CDENsomnia]

To be fair I don't know that my issue was the canister or not. I just knew that for some reason no matter how slow I went the fuel was dribbling in to the tank rather than a nice flow. The only way we could fuel the boat was to do extremely small "clicks" or if it was a good pump you had to go as slow as possible. Cleaning the vent did nothing and actually once I took the vent completely out and tried to fill and that didn't help either. We also tried different angles with the nozzle and different attitudes with the boat. This is going to sound dumb and probably looked dumb but we also tried shaking the boat while filling. I talked to the dealer at one point and he said that canister might need replaced, hence the assumption it was the canister causing the problem.

Only thing that seemed to make marginal improvements was starting to use the marina fuel. Maybe a coincidence...maybe not.

 

[biffdotorg]

Only thing that seemed to make marginal improvements was starting to use the marina fuel. Maybe a coincidence...maybe not.

$5 says the marina nozzle is smaller in diameter than the average filling station nozzle. I'm sure you will get it figured out. How frustrating though

 

[justamon]

It seems like its rare. Not all boats have this problem. Very strange.

 

[justamon]

I tried "Gangsta" style, and it worked like a charm!

 

[Seadeals]

Glad to hear it! Way to teach your boat not to mess with you.

 

[Danielmailin]

I have a 190 FSH and never had a problem filling up the tank. Check the vent next to the gas lid, it should be venting fumes as you fill up, if not, it's most likely clogged

 

[justamon]

I can only guess the tube for the tank is angled to cause a splash affect triggering the nozzle safety system to shut off. Wow...I just sounded like a tech nerd just now.

 

[Magyar86]

I filled my 19 195 today and I had to mess with nozzle a bit to get it to not back up. I also put it one tooth down from all the way on the auto fill thing. Mine seemed to prefer the nozzle as far in as I could get it. I think part of the problem is that the boat has a horizontal fill tube vs more vertical that cars/trucks have so the fill nozzle has issues with it. I could also feel the air coming out of the vent. I saw this thread so I was worried since this was my first fill up on the new boat and I figured with my luck I would have a pita gas tank but it did fine. I had issues with my motor home when I first got it. I had to get under it and move the tube running all the way up to tank. It had a “sag” in the middle so gas wasn’t able to flow freely to tank. Once I got that zip tied up all was good.