Upgrade to JL M770s - phase 4

[LukePrinsloo]

Sounds like an awesome system you are getting to. Just my 2 cents after reading some of this post. It sounds like you need to upgrade your amps rather than the speakers/towers. 75 watts to your speakers is the reason you are not getting the sound you are looking for. The m3-770s will def sound louder but only at the expense of a better amp. If your speakers calls for 75 watts rms, try to put at least 100 watts rms on it. For example on my 6.5s I run 150 watts to each speaker and they can scream when I want them to. Right voltage matching and proper wattage can have any speaker sounding amazing. Most people's issues are usually under powering of the equipment to save or work around a budget. But in the end the amps/equalizers are the key to high volumes without distortions.

I may look into it, but I struggle to see how I'm going to amp it correctly. I have three pairs of speakers I want in one "zone". (bow, cabin, rear cabin), "zone 2" will be tower and swim deck, and zone 3 is the sub. So I can adjust gains appropriately. zone 2 is easy m800 (which I just do not have the cash for right now). I have a brand new M400 for it right now. Keep in mind RMS is a "safe lifetime average wattage" for the speaker. Not a recommended wattage (for both of these it's pretty broad up to 200w). basically, it'll last if you keep it to 60 or 75w rms forever. I do agree that more would be better though.

I only bought the new tower 770's because the old ones died. Water got into the JL enclosure and flooded the speaker out. The install is 6 years old by the original dealer (was a boat show example of the things they could do).

At this point, I am going to keep it as I have it. If i no likey. I guess next winter I'll update that m400 to an m800.

 

[FloJet]

I understand. I think you will be fine either route you take.

 

[Jaylex]

Is this basically the same debate of current m3 vs m6. I'm planning on a pair of m3 650s and two pairs of m3 770s, all powered at 75watts each on an 800/8. Hoping I'm not disappointed. We're aiming for.sound quality, not necessarily volume. Thoughts on springing for an extra pair of 7.7's? I didn't think they'd fit in the bow area

Not sure if its the same debat...but in your case with 75 rms to each, the M3 would be great...SQ is going to be good bc its JL, and is somewhat dependent on how loud you play it, prob will be fine for both volune and SQ...and for the 24ft+ the 7.7s will fit in the bow with a spacer...my build shows the spacer.

Even with 75 rms you will.be pleased.

 

[Jaylex]

I may look into it, but I struggle to see how I'm going to amp it correctly. I have three pairs of speakers I want in one "zone". (bow, cabin, rear cabin), "zone 2" will be tower and swim deck, and zone 3 is the sub. So I can adjust gains appropriately. zone 2 is easy m800 (which I just do not have the cash for right now). I have a brand new M400 for it right now. Keep in mind RMS is a "safe lifetime average wattage" for the speaker. Not a recommended wattage (for both of these it's pretty broad up to 200w). basically, it'll last if you keep it to 60 or 75w rms forever. I do agree that more would be better though.

I only bought the new tower 770's because the old ones died. Water got into the JL enclosure and flooded the speaker out. The install is 6 years old by the original dealer (was a boat show example of the things they could do).

At this point, I am going to keep it as I have it. If i no likey. I guess next winter I'll update that m400 to an m800.

Unless your running the M6s that were intended for higher power handling, the M3s at 75rms will be fine. I have 200 rms going to my 8 M770s, JL said it was fine mainly bc they over engineer their products, and its essential clean power that provides extra head room when I play it above regular listening levels. Unfortunately bc of how they rate their amps its hard to get over 75rms without bridging the channels, unless you go with a diff brand for amps to have say 100 rms, but since you have the amps use what you got...

I also have the JL amp remotes to adjust the system, I have one for towers on the 800/8 and the subs on the 1000/1...I use the regular head unit voulme for the main speakers....its extremely helpful to adjust it based on listening needs, at night I turn subs and towers down, and use cabin speakers mainly.

I think you might be able to control the zones how you want, think you can select the channels, cant recall.

You running 2 amps? 1 sub? There is a way to set it up and run volume controlers.

 

[agannole93]

Not sure if its the same debat...but in your case with 75 rms to each, the M3 would be great...SQ is going to be good bc its JL, and is somewhat dependent on how loud you play it, prob will be fine for both volune and SQ...and for the 24ft+ the 7.7s will fit in the bow with a spacer...my build shows the spacer.

Even with 75 rms you will.be pleased.

I have an older 23, even with spacers I think probably an almost impossible fit. I'm going for less in the bow anyways so will probably stick with 6.5s up there.

 

[Jaylex]

I have an older 23, even with spacers I think probably an almost impossible fit. I'm going for less in the bow anyways so will probably stick with 6.5s up there.

Ok gotcha....yeah 6.5s will be fine in that case.

 

[agannole93]

Ok gotcha....yeah 6.5s will be fine in that case.

Don't get me wrong, if they'd fit without having to modify the cushions I'd do it for the extra $75 lol