haknslash
Jetboaters Fleet Admiral
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- 2019
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Someone should do a Seven Marine motor off a Scarab 165 lol
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Oh gotcha. The sideways movement.
So for the record any 19 foot Yamaha boat keel or no keel equipped with the new cobra vipers has excellent reverse control as well as forward control at all speeds and power steering, better braking ability when using reverse , faster planning, perfect tracking at all speeds a more stable hull attitude in rough conditions and the cost is a no brainer. SO the VIPER improves every part of the boats handling from forward that you use 99 percent of the time to reverse that has been described by customers to be as accurate as it's forward steering. And with a 30 day satisfaction guarantee it's a simple and practical choice. I started enhancing reverse with the fangs a couple years ago, it provides you with a reliable and predictable reverse control without over steering . Oh $159 with free shipping in the U S A !
I'm trying to understand what you are saying. In my own experience, the only damage I have done in reverse has been to my impellers... from stirring up rocks and sucking them in. In no way could LTEs help me there.its that 1% that causes 99% of the damage
Oh, I can see that! No doubt - being able to throw your stern around and move it sideways is super cool and can be very very useful.It is not necessarily all about reverse control... Hence the name given "lateral thruster" I know you have you own product you need to sell @Cobra Jet Steering LLC, and i have purchased your product in the past. It is a very good product. I would guarantee though if you used the lateral thruster, you would appreciate the handling it gives to a boat. I 100% of the time reverse my boat into a dock or slip. There are many times that i wished i could push the stern away from the dock because my momentum was too great or the wind was too much. I now have that ability to do so.
Tabs and vipers are different entirely. Very little overlap in function.
For the best upgrade you need both. Cobra and trim tabs. Steering first, as it's cheaper and more urgent for the boat to go where it is pointed to better... Then trim tabs to make the boat much bigger in water and balance side to side with uneven load on in side wind condition.
Tabs are totally worth it too if 500-800 bucks won't otherwise impact your living situation. I have the compact lenco I got from eBay after watching for a long time and got the indicator switches and compact tabs for my 230 for close to $500.
Great upgrade also, but does not substitute the Cobra fins.
I think of the switch as a representation of the side of the boat, you are working on, so you push the "bow" of the switch to get the bow of the boat down, and if you need the Stern back down, you push on it on the switch to make it happen.
Once I thought of it this way, it seems more intuitive to me.
I agree with you here. Not to mention all about experience level behind the throttle. There is isn't much I cannot do in reverse turning either compared to forward. Just have to learn how to use both levels. I guess my days of practicing around cans on the water really paid off.I'm trying to understand what you are saying. In my own experience, the only damage I have done in reverse has been to my impellers... from stirring up rocks and sucking them in. In no way could LTEs help me there.
I think I understand the LTE concept well, and I can totally see LTEs being a very nice feature!
But - I spend >99% of my boating time in forward. Would I want to compromise that (by having to drop Cobras) to gain LTEs? - heck no.
The reverse is kind of awful (sux) but it works to stop the boat from moving forward.
I have never found myself in a situation where I would be stuck with this boat. In fact, I can easily out-maneuver any other (traditionally propelled) boat in my (small and super tricky) marina.
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The big thing for me is having that "get outta dodge" factor around the docks... Our ramp runs east/west and our breeze usually comes from the north so there is pretty much a side blow whenever we get back. Ive noticed there are times I have to jam on reverse to help line up on the trailer so that is my biggest thing.. I know the LTEs could help that but Id rather have the ability to go straight back rather than a nudge in either direction.. seems like that could get a bit confusing if I had someone racking my boat that didnt understand it.. Check LTEs off the list.. For now...
Ive got Lenco tabs on my current boat and while its taking a bit to understand exactly how they work and make my boat react, they are definitely a great enhancement especially with a unbalanced load out. Plus, Ive found I can do some wake shaping at different speeds...Cant wait till next summer!!! The only thing I dont like about them is the backwards operation of the switch.. Up is bow down and bow down is up.. The verbage on the switch makes it wonky.. I try not to look at it while im operating and just know that down, lifts whatever side... Kinda trippy when you play with it at first...