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10 hr service 2020 ar210

wilsonjason2000

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2020
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I am at 10 hrs on my new 2020 Ar210. The dealer can not get me in till Monday?. Would it hurt if I took the boat out this weekend for a few hours or should I not go over the 10Hrs. Thanks for your help
 
Hi and Welcome.

You could do it yourself and get oil/filter from here

You'll need something like this to extract oil

Check dipstick and have fun. It's your boat!
 
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I am at 10 hrs on my new 2020 Ar210. The dealer can not get me in till Monday?. Would it hurt if I took the boat out this weekend for a few hours or should I not go over the 10Hrs. Thanks for your help

I’ve read in some other spots on here it’s fine to go a little over, and perhaps encouraged. I got to 8 hours and called to make a appointment, I had a boat day planned that weekend for a sandbar trip, figured I would be right at 10 after that. Dealer said they just had someone cancel so I could bring it in the next day to take their spot or wait 2 weeks. So I brought it in. I think it’s just a oil change, lube on things that move, check the computers for codes, and check for anything that came loose, and address any warranty issues you might have. I would say you are more than fine adding a couple hours.
 
@wilsonjason2000 If you do decide to do it yourself make sure you get the right kit. You would need two of the ones below.

 
@wilsonjason2000 If you do decide to do it yourself make sure you get the right kit. You would need two of the ones below.


Did you have any issues or tips from when you did yours?
 
You can go over 10, but you probably do not want to exceed 20 hrs - that was the advice from my dealer 2+ years ago.

I had my first service at about 16 hrs., and all is well 2+ years later.
 
I am at 10 hrs on my new 2020 Ar210. The dealer can not get me in till Monday?. Would it hurt if I took the boat out this weekend for a few hours or should I not go over the 10Hrs. Thanks for your help

10-20 is within the "safe range." I had mine done at 13. Get on the water and send it.
 
There are a ton of oil change threads here about the 10 hour service as well as other things you should look at.

Here is a recent one. https://jetboaters.net/threads/10-hour-service-help.27496/#post-457192

It is not hard at all. Some do their own, others send to dealer. You will save a good deal of money doing yourself and time depending on how long the dealer will keep the boat. If you want the dealer to do it for your own piece of mind that is great to.

Doing it yourself is fairly easy.


One thing I would do, now that I know better, is to check the oil level properly before you do oil change. If Dealer, during Prep, over filled, which appears happens from time to time, you want to know this ahead of time.

It is suggested to put back in, in oil, what you take out, or just a bit less to make sure you don't overfill. Half way between L and F or just under that appears to be optimal. Measure what you remove from each engine independently. If the level was too high to begin with you may put too much back in. Use it as a reference point.


Below is what I did and is really just a rehash of what other members with far more experience have shared on these forums.

1) Order Correct Kit for you engines, as indicated you will need two.
2) Some change oil filters some do not. I did to remove any particles it is keeping during break in.
3) Make sure you get an oil extractor. I got the following linked about and it works fantastic.
4) Go slowly and methodically so you don't spill oil around your engine.
5) Level engines on land or in water. Run on hose if on land or in water for 5-6 minutes each engine independently. Check oil level to determine where the oil is currently. It may be too high, low or just right. Half way between F and L or slightly under has been determined to be optimal.
6) Do one engine at a time.
7) It helps if you puncture the top of the oil filter with a nail or such and give it a quarter turn to help draining. Don't puncture too deep since it threads in the middle. You should do it off center on the top.
8) Read Manual, you want to extract from multiple spots
9) Depending on where your current oil level is, measure what you remove and replace that. 1/2 in each hole indicated on each engine.
10) Some here put slightly less in and check it again after restarting and warming back up after oil change is complete. Then add to correct level.
11) Check Air filter to make sure that it isn't clogged with oil.
12) If your engine was running good before you should be fine, although some change spark plugs, or check the gaps on them. I changed mine as well.
13) Go through step 5 again and check oil level. As others here have mentioned, to see the fresh oil on the stick it helps to pull out the dipstick and lay it on clean white paper towel. The oil level will show on the towel. It can be hard to see in bright sunlight with new oil.
Repeat for second engine.

Also I would check all hose clamps in engine compartment for tightness. Things can wiggle loose on a new boat. I also made sure all wires in engine compartment were secured and everything in there was in general order.

There is a 10 hour checklist in Manual and another one somewhere which was linked in the forums. I can't seem to find it though.

Other things you should be looking at on a per trip basis. Clean out plugs and lubrication, keeping them clean. Drain plugs in keel, engine compartment and ski locker, make sure they are in great working order. I actually bought several extra off amazon for emergency. I can just see some kids snatching the one out of my keel and thinking it is funny.

A ton of useful info on this forum, I couldn't have gotten by without it.

I CHECK OIL all the time. Usually once per outing after engines warm up. To make sure it has a good color and is at the appropriate level. Only takes a few minutes. It is one of my things I do....
 
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I am at 10 hrs on my new 2020 Ar210. The dealer can not get me in till Monday?. Would it hurt if I took the boat out this weekend for a few hours or should I not go over the 10Hrs. Thanks for your help
Not a big deal...it's just a check up and oil change, like the first one you do with a new vehicle. I'm having the dealer do my first one as I'm too busy with work and they have a couple minor issues to fix up for me anyway. Left it there last weekend and will pick up this weekend. The dealer said anywhere near 10-15 hours is fine. Mine was at 12.6 when I dropped it off.
 
@wilsonjason2000 If you do decide to do it yourself make sure you get the right kit. You would need two of the ones below.


Corrected link in my post. I hate the engine/model combination change.

To OP theres nothing hard about putting tube down dipstick and with pump it drains oil from pan. Drop the front of the boat down you can get a little more. If engine hot oil is thinner and easier to suck out.
Like others have mentioned don't over fill and add what you took out.
They sell oil filter cap tool which makes taking oil filter off a breeze. Something like this
 
My five year old could change the oil on my ‘19 AR210...it’s that easy...
 
10 hrs seems crazy to have to change plugs. Why is the 1st service so quick? Cars these days go 100kmi on a set of plugs
 
I wouldn’t change the plugs at 10 hours, but do change them every 50. For whatever reason these things chew through spark plugs.
 
I wouldn’t change the plugs at 10 hours, but do change them every 50. For whatever reason these things chew through spark plugs.
100% agree. On my WaveRunner I have figured out that in "No Wake Mode" it's VERY rich like dumping fuel similar to WOT. I try not to use it and they definitely are better. I understand it's tough to tune a vessel for all climates but it's pretty far off.
 
Please don't add what you took out if you did not check it warm. Some users have indicated that they where overfilled from Dealer or previous service. The Best level appears to be half full or just under.
 
I am at 10 hrs on my new 2020 Ar210. The dealer can not get me in till Monday?. Would it hurt if I took the boat out this weekend for a few hours or should I not go over the 10Hrs. Thanks for your help
@wilsonjason2000 ....agree that you can exceed 10 hours but iIwouldn't go over 15 hours. Not sure about Yamaha but Mercruiser uses factory break-in oils that should be replaced at the specified time. If you went 20 hours and there was a problem Yamaha could download your data and deny a claim. My friend owned a marina and a guy did not follow break-in on a pair of 300 Hp Suzukis and was denied warranty. Sued my friend. At court my friends tech produced downloads of the engines break-in. The guy got no warranty, paid my friend's lawyer fees and court costs. Extreme example - yes - but the warranty/service data is there for a reason, ignore it at your peril.
 
I am at 10 hrs on my new 2020 Ar210. The dealer can not get me in till Monday?. Would it hurt if I took the boat out this weekend for a few hours or should I not go over the 10Hrs. Thanks for your help

It's gonna assplode! Nah, it won't hurt, but it's super easy to do it yourself, so why not do it before you take it out? You'll also have the peace of mind that you won't have any issues with any warranty claim, as @Canuckjetboater related his friend's story. On that note, make sure you save all of your receipts for proof that you did this, mebbe have someone take a pic of you doing it too.

I've got a thread floating around here about how to change your oil, and as @Brad460 said, it's so easy, a 5-year old could do it!
 
I did my 10hr service myself around 15 hours. The metal shavings you get out of the oil when you do this are no joke! The oil looks sparkly sometimes when you are extracting it. I took a pic where you can see some of this residue in my oil extractor tube. I now appreciate why the 10hr service is super critical!
 

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It's gonna assplode! Nah, it won't hurt, but it's super easy to do it yourself, so why not do it before you take it out? You'll also have the peace of mind that you won't have any issues with any warranty claim, as @Canuckjetboater related his friend's story. On that note, make sure you save all of your receipts for proof that you did this, mebbe have someone take a pic of you doing it too.

I've got a thread floating around here about how to change your oil, and as @Brad460 said, it's so easy, a 5-year old could do it!
@wilsonjason2000 @Daren and Heather @drewkaree ......great advice all. In my opinion all the comments are congruent. If for nothing other than warranty purposes it IS important to follow the manufacturer's warranty/service schedules - they have been established to avoid problems and ensure longevity of the product. If you are slightly over a scheduled time there should be no flag on the play and yes, you can certainly do a lot of your own service/maintenance with the wise suggestion by Drew that you retain your bills for parts. Of course taking pictures for maintenance/service file or data stick would be awesome. A famous engine builder once told me the way an engine is treated in its first few hours of its life sets the stage for its health (and expenses) for the rest of that life. That's why I have been so ocd for the first 20 hours of all of my engines' lives. When I go to sell or trade a vehicle or boat the dealers and friends all want to buy it as they know I look after my machinery......and why not the $tuff is too expensive to mistreat!
 
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