F Y I I am selling out the remaining fangs forthe ultimate steering systems

[Cobra Jet Steering LLC]

I have a few of the Ultimate type fangs in stock that I am liquidating, If you added only 2 fangs to your twin engine system and you would like to enhance the reverse control the reverse stopping power and the power steering effect above what you already receive from your 2 fang setup this would be a good opportunity to pick up a pair of fangs with the hardware for 50 dollars shipped in the U S A, or if you wanted to add fangs and you have the fang compatible base plate you could add 4 to a twin engine setup for 100 dollars. I am serious when I say I only have a few available.
I have a new design I am getting close to releasing but the price is a bit more than the originals and the compatibility target is for all Yamaha jet boat nozzles With the exception of the 19 foot keel boats " sorry the little keel in front of the rudder is in the way" HOWEVER the VIPER will get that job done quite nicely as we already know.
I am also targeting Magnum A K steering systems and most of the plastic part time systems .
I am also making these as a stand alone system, so if you just want some unbelievable reverse control with power steering and improved braking this new MEGA FANG SYSTEM is something you will want to add to your boat when I release it.
And yes I do have some in stock however I am taking advantage of the off season to make any final adjustments to accommodate the various steering systems. So people who may be interested in this project who would like to work on the adaptation for other systems feel free to contact me.
IF you want to know how it works on the MAGNUM A K system in place of the single A K fang setup there is a member who has had experience using it on his 24 foot boat. This system uses two MEGA FANGS per nozzle and an independent base plate for mounting on your nozzle. This new system will sell for 85 dollars per nozzle if you already have the base plates like the regular Magnum steering or the ULTIMATE steering, with an additional 25 dollars per base plate and necessary hardware if you do not already have them on your nozzles.
I want to remind you the power steering effect actually reduces the work load on all your steering system from the nozzles to the helm , the part of the fangs that extend forward past the pivot point of the nozzle actually helps to turn the nozzles by canceling out resistance caused by the inside jet stream trying to straighten the nozzle and any added resistance from steering fins . The reverse control improvement is created by the fangs directing the water exiting the bottom opening of the nozzle when you close the reverse gate by corralling that thrust under the boat in a tighter pattern also improving the stopping power by directing that water under the boat in a more defined stream. So the big difference here is that size really does matter "in this application " And having two per nozzle also makes a big difference.
I do my best to keep these mods cost effective so the difference in price from the original sets per single nozzle is only 10 dollars and the base plates with all the necessary stainless hardware is very low also. For the 19 foot boats pre keel this system with the Ultimate steering is also a very good choice along with the VIPER.
On the 19 foot keel boats the VIPER provides the power steering the enhanced reverse and stopping power with the added planning assistance, it was the longer fangs built into the VIPER and the customer comments as to how their boats steer as well in reverse as they do in forward that actually convinced me to go back and revisit the fangs that I started offering back in early 2016.

 

[Cobra Jet Steering LLC]

Oh and if you want to ask about the difference the person who tried these has had the Ultimate system and fangs on a 19 foot boat and the magnum A K with A K fangs on a 24 foot boat and now he has tried a set of the MEGA FANGS on his 24 foot boat in place of the single A K fang, He is also a jet boat addict and very smart " most of the time anyway" lol. @swatski he was very helpful in providing me with some needed pictures and other important support information to mod the mega fangs to his particular application . I thank him for his willingness to go above and beyond for the jet boat cause.

 

[adrianp89]

I have no idea whats going in the first post.

I have nothing on my boat, is any of this a product that will help with slow speed?

 

[Cobra Jet Steering LLC]

I designed the Magnum A K steering system for the articulating keel twin engine jet boats, this system provides you with a second tie rod for balance and redundancy, it provides you with excellent slow speed response and a lot better high speed response since the keel down the center of the boat resists turning at high speed, This system also has the upgrade of magnum A K fangs for power steering and better reverse or the mega fangs for unbelievable reverse and power steering so you build the system you feel you need, you can begin with just the mag A K steering for 324.25 add the single ak fangs for 45 dollars or the MEGA FANGS for $220 extra and get some super power steering and reverse. Also if you are close I even provide free installation if you bring me the boat since I live in Pinellas county fl. All with a 30 day money back guarantee so if it is not what you want you can return it within 30 days providing you tried it on the boat first. This is the basic system

and the system with the regular a k fangs

 

[swatski]

I have no idea whats going in the first post.

I have nothing on my boat, is any of this a product that will help with slow speed?

There are choices of aftermarket steering systems, and it can get a little bit confusing.

I love to have the fins down at speed as it gives the boat a bit more of a traditional steering feel and "plants" the stern. The boat feels like it is on rails, and does not bleed as much speed in turns as it cuts through rather than slides.

In my opinion, with the new boats the best way to go are the Cobra AK Magnum w/extra steering rod and new MEGA FANGS. Unbelievable system - both in forward and reverse, no wake and WOT.

AKs Magnums are basically the Ultimates installed in one-fin-per-pump configuration. That is enough to provide plenty of steering enhancement going forward - in no wake speeds and up to WOT.

AK FANGS (single) do not do much in this configuration, in my experience. Not bad, and there is some "power steering" effect but not much help with the reverse - maybe enough to know you have it, LOL, but it still totally s@cks.

However, once you add new MEGA FANGS (double per pump) to the AK Magnum - that system rocks. Power steering is just phenomenal, and the reverse wakes up to the point you can actually run doughnuts in reverse - something that is simply not doable with a stock 240 (w/new keeled hulls).

I'll post my MEGAs review in a separate thread, but the bottom line is - AK Magnums with MEGA FANGS make these boats handle sharp and more predictable, at all speeds.

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[swatski]

Here is a high speed turn with Cobra AK Magnum w/MEGA FANGs (full turn to Port at 5sec mark):

These turns are extremely sharp, bleeding little speed, and the Gs are crazy.


EDIT: Please note that this video clip does NOT adequately reflect how quick that turn actually is. The G forces generated there are brutal, and can lead to a serious accident.

I would not attempt something similar with any guests in the boat, no matter how much warning.

Turning in the manner as shown in the clip above, a full turn to Port can leave one plastered to the side of the boat at the helm, maybe bruised; however, a similar turn to Strbd can be catastrophic.

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[Cobra Jet Steering LLC]

Yes be very careful after adding the mega fangs and fins to get yourself familiar with the huge steering improvement over your original system .
Do not try a full on turn at high speed as swatski mentioned because with this system on your jet boat it will out perform a non keel boat if you turn the wheel hard all the way you can turn a 180 very quickly. I know on the A K twin engine boats they were not known for being nimble in turns but believe me that is a thing of the past with the correct system installed.
Initially the keel down the center of your boat makes your hull want to resist turning and continue to travel straight because the big keel is basically a big fixed rudder so to compensate , people became accustom to turning the wheel hard and fast if they wanted a quick tight turn .
With the MEGA FANGS this is not necessary as they will overcome that keel resistance and give your jet boat a huge improvement in the helm input response area of your boat , remember this is regular steering verses POWER STEERING so previously you needed a lot MORE time and input in the helm for the boat to turn at high speed . The new steering will make you feel like you are driving a sports car on a dry road. SERIOUSLY! Be cautious as you get yourself accustom to this change in handling it is very definitely a HUGE difference.
REVERSE response is also very ENHANSED as is the stopping power of the system .

 

[swatski]

Yes be very careful after adding the mega fangs and fins to get yourself familiar with the huge steering improvement over your original system .
Do not try a full on turn at high speed as swatski mentioned because with this system on your jet boat it will out perform a non keel boat if you turn the wheel hard all the way you can turn a 180 very quickly. I know on the A K twin engine boats they were not known for being nimble in turns but believe me that is a thing of the past with the correct system installed.
Initially the keel down the center of your boat makes your hull want to resist turning and continue to travel straight because the big keel is basically a big fixed rudder so to compensate , people became accustom to turning the wheel hard and fast if they wanted a quick tight turn .
With the MEGA FANGS this is not necessary as they will overcome that keel resistance and give your jet boat a huge improvement in the helm input response area of your boat , remember this is regular steering verses POWER STEERING so previously you needed a lot MORE time and input in the helm for the boat to turn at high speed . The new steering will make you feel like you are driving a sports car on a dry road. SERIOUSLY! Be cautious as you get yourself accustom to this change in handling it is very definitely a HUGE difference.
REVERSE response is also very ENHANSED as is the stopping power of the system .

Jeff - thank you for these explanations, very well said indeed.

In my own (direct, hands on) experience with these systems I can confirm that is 100% accurate.


Needles to say, one can’t feel G forces when watching a video clip. In this regard, my EDIT note posted above was actually intended as a serious warning. Have fun, but be safe everyone!

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[Cobra Jet Steering LLC]

Thank you ,I would also give that same advice for any systems you add to your boats especially if they have the fangs added for the power steering effect and reverse control.
It is always advisable to familiarize yourself at the helm to get to where the new handling characteristics are familiar to you .

Funny but years ago when I first started to drive a ski on my back using my feet to steer with my steering system added to it I would post videos and always say don't try this at home I guess that only applies if you have a home on the water.
Now I drive standing on the seat towing multiple tubes or standing up driving no hands at 60+ mph leaning to steer or sitting on the seat backward or cruising within inches of the trees or doing 180 turns wide open on a ski when I get within a few feet of the trees or going out in the gulf jumping hurricane waves alone, all those fun things that can really ruin your day if something goes wrong but that is just me, when I escape from the nursing home, don't you folks try doing what I do.
You will usually know immediately when you messed up like the new sandbar I slammed into a few weeks ago causing me to fly over the handlebars in a few inches of water ,in any event I have been a risk taker all my life I had people tell my dad when I was just a kid I would never make it to 21 REALLY I'm more than 3 times that now!
They told him that because I loved to take off skiing by STANDING on the dock yelling HIT IT then jumping off the end of the dock with a slalom ski on one foot and the ski rope in my hand to get started skiing, literally flying through the air then landing on the water, when you are always pushing the limits you become accustom to the adrenalin rush and forget the danger involved, most people would end up in the E R if they try doing things like I do so if you see me driving in person or on videos doing any of those previously mentioned tricks I probably do not need to say this but DO NOT TRY THIS ANYPLACE at ANYTIME . When things go wrong it usually hurts. REMEMBER I am a professional stunt driver for the POLISH film industry ! or not!

 

[swatski]

I posted a quick review of the MEGAs:
https://jetboaters.net/threads/mega-fangs-cobra-ak-power-steering-doughnuts-in-reverse.15877/