The Vaccine

[CycoRyder]

Possibly misunderstand my point.. i am simply stating that the term VACCINE is a lie.. what has been created to combat covid is NOT a vaccine.. it is correctly labeled as an inhibitor.. its the lie that is the “misinformation”.. not me stating what the correct term for the product is.. the current product does not prevent covid contraction or transmission.. it only reduces affect.. i have been vaccinated for small pox.. i have never contracted it.. thats what a vaccine does.. prevents contracting and therefore transmission.. get the inhibitor.. i am not advocating to not get the shot(s).. i am merely stating the current product is not a vaccine.. there is no intelligent argument to the contrary.. wake up America!!

 

[Dean P]

Possibly misunderstand my point.. i am simply stating that the term VACCINE is a lie.. what has been created to combat covid is NOT a vaccine.. it is correctly labeled as an inhibitor.. its the lie that is the “misinformation”.. not me stating what the correct term for the product is.. the current product does not prevent covid contraction or transmission.. it only reduces affect.. i have been vaccinated for small pox.. i have never contracted it.. thats what a vaccine does.. prevents contracting and therefore transmission.. get the inhibitor.. i am not advocating to not get the shot(s).. i am merely stating the current product is not a vaccine.. there is no intelligent argument to the contrary.. wake up America!!

This has already been discussed so many times to count. Who intentionally lied?

 

[CycoRyder]

over it.. just forget about it.. go on with your life..

 

[Dean P]

Cheers everyone!

 

[Lurch]

We can all drink to that....drink, Dean!

 

[Bruce]

@CycoRyder, perhaps you would care to consider how the FDA refers to the terribly named Comirnaty

Q&A for Comirnaty (COVID-19 Vaccine mRNA)

FDA conducted a thorough evaluation of the data and information submitted in the Biologics License Application (BLA) for Comirnaty before making a determination that the vaccine is safe and effective in preventing COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older.

www.fda.gov

or the EMA Comirnaty - European Medicines Agency

or WHO Pfizer/BioNTech COMIRNATY®, COVID-19 vaccine

or TGA COVID-19 vaccine: Pfizer Australia - COMIRNATY BNT162b2 (mRNA) - approved for use in individuals 12 years and older

or MHRA Information for UK recipients on Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine (Regulation 174)

or Anvisa Comirnaty (Pfizer/Wyeth)

 

[Evil Sports]

@Evil Sports,
Would you consider returning to productive discussion?

Yes about anything other than this. Your not rid of me that easily.

 

[Bruce]

Your not rid of me that easily.

Certainly would not want to be rid of you. Just hoping for positive and productive discussion.

 

[Evil Sports]

Based on what I read from the participants I don't see this as productive. I'll talk boats with members anytime.

 

[Lurch]

Can you not fucking read???

Are you a complete moron on top of having a penchant to jump to conclusions without actually reading what you pretend to be fact checking???

Dude, give it a rest.

My family friend does not practice in Oklahoma, and this is what I said about the lab leak:

Lol, have a super night, @swatski. Good luck in your future written communication endeavors.

 

[swatski]

I'd like you to back up your assertion that Lab Leak has been proven categorically false. Can we start there?

I did not say, or assert, that the lab leak has been proven wrong. It has not, and can not be proven wrong, the virus leaked somewhere at some point. What I called categorically wrong is that the virus was man-made / created in the Wuhan lab.

Piss off dude, or learn how to read with some basic understanding of the content.

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[Evil Sports]

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Definition of a keyboard cowboy in it's truest form.

 

[Lurch]

I did not say, or assert, that the lab leak has been proven wrong. It has not, and can not be proven wrong, the virus leaked somewhere at some point. What I called categorically wrong is that the virus was man-made / created in the Wuhan lab.

Piss off dude, or learn how to read with some basic understanding of the content.

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Your quote: Dude is just spreading more bullshit - what was blasted was not the lab leak but the debunked assertion by conspiracy mongers that the virus was man-made/created in the Wuhan lab. That has been proven categorically false, but those people don't care.

I'm doing just fine, @swatski. You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. Like I said earlier, we'll likely never know whether this was naturally occurring, or a result of GoF research in Wuhan. Nothing has been proven, nor proven categorically false. Hug your pillow in impotent rage tonight, for tomorrow's a new, sunny day.

 

[swatski]

Good luck in your future written communication endeavors.

If luck in my future written communications trends as it has had in the past few decades I will do extremely well.

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I'm interested in how you came to that conclusion before all the facts are out. Who proved it false? Mainstream press? Partisan fact checkers? Here are a few items you might want to consider.

BUSTED!! 2018 Video Shows Dr. Fauci REINSTATING Gain-of-Function Research at NIH

BitChute is a video service that prioritizes creators and champions users' freedoms and privacy.

www.bitchute.com

Gain-of-Function Research: Ethical Analysis - PubMed

Gain-of-function (GOF) research involves experimentation that aims or is expected to (and/or, perhaps, actually does) increase the transmissibility and/or virulence of pathogens. Such research, when conducted by responsible scientists, usually aims to improve understanding of disease causing...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

New Details Emerge About Coronavirus Research at Chinese Lab

More than 900 pages of materials related to U.S.-funded coronavirus research in China were released following a FOIA lawsuit by The Intercept.

theintercept.com

Released Emails Show Dr. Anthony Fauci LIED BEFORE THE SENATE about the Extent of Mad Science He Funded at Wuhan Lab - Big League Politics

Sen. Rand Paul is taking another victory lap.

bigleaguepolitics.com

Dr. Fauci Faces Call To Resign, Answer For Shocking Report About U.S. Government Funded Wuhan Research

www.dailywire.com

I don't know where do you get this stuff from, but let me try to give you a simplistic answer.

None of the covid strains identified and sequenced so far (key word being sequenced, as is "completely read", no page unturned) showed any evidence of experimental tampering or gain-of-function insertions, expression cassettes, etc.

It is a very straightforward process were virologists and geneticists "look under the hood" of the viral genome, same way as F1 technicians pre-race inspect the vehicles for illegal mods.

There are none. None. in covid viral strains sequenced in the wild - anywhere.

Every virology lab in the world is engaged in research that could be labeled as "gain of function". It means nothing.

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[swatski]

or a result of GoF research in Wuhan

You have no idea what you are talking about, dude.

There is a limit to what you can do with google searches if you lack formal training which takes years, and is not for everyone.

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"None of the covid strains identified and sequenced so far (key word being sequenced, as is "completely read", no page unturned) showed any evidence of experimental tampering or gain-of-function insertions, expression cassettes, etc.

It is a very straightforward process were virologists and geneticists "look under the hood" of the viral genome, same way as F1 technicians pre-race inspect the vehicles for illegal mods.

There are none. None. in covid viral strains sequenced in the wild - anywhere.

Every virology lab in the world is engaged in research that could be labeled as "gain of function". It means nothing."
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[crazy4life]

Your quote: Dude is just spreading more bullshit - what was blasted was not the lab leak but the debunked assertion by conspiracy mongers that the virus was man-made/created in the Wuhan lab. That has been proven categorically false, but those people don't care.

I'm doing just fine, @swatski. You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. Like I said earlier, we'll likely never know whether this was naturally occurring, or a result of GoF research in Wuhan. Nothing has been proven, nor proven categorically false. Hug your pillow in impotent rage tonight, for tomorrow's a new, sunny day.

Be careful because what you didnt know is dude is salty because his Nobel Laureate trophy got lost in the mail. LMFAO

 

[swatski]

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Definition of a keyboard cowboy in it's truest form.

Actually, you are probably not wrong, lol.

I have been rushed to respond as I get irritated, engaged in a completely wasteful exchange.

You give me pause, and I thank you.

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[2kwik4u]

Are these reputable sources you're trying to prove a point? Really!?! never heard of them. Please explain.

They aren't really reputable sources.

The .gov is a decent one, but it's more about what is the concept, not drawing any conclusions.

The rest score poorly on the information vs rhetoric scale. Hell, one is even obviously labelled as a political site, which seems like an absurdly poor place to get information on scientific endeavors. I do appreciate that at least one lands on the left side of center instead of all leaning right to some degree.

bitchute.com hasn't been rated that I can find, but appears at a cursory look to be more rhetoric than data/informative.

They do all fall into the "reliable for news, but high on opinion content" as defined on adfontesmedia.com

Take from that what you will.

 

[2kwik4u]

Actually, you are probably not wrong, lol.

I have been rushed to respond as I get irritated, engaged in a completely wasteful exchange.

You give me pause, and I thank you.

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Take a breath. I do often. A well rounded response is more effective, and honestly, more satisfying in the end.

Not to poke a bear with a stick but, I had quite a few of those over tower attachment knobs a few years ago

 

[2kwik4u]

Based on what I read from the participants I don't see this as productive. I'll talk boats with members anytime.

I think there glimmers of hope in here from time to time. We're like 10 pages deep today with like 15 good useful posts. I'll wade through the mess to get those few nuggets. Others aren't so apt to do the wading. like everything else in life, different strokes for different folks.