txav8r's new barn construction (RV but could be boat)

[txav8r]

@Murf'n'surf It's a siken product. A specific anchor intent. Comes with two mixer tubes and caulk gun cartridge. I'll post a pic later of it. Best stuff I could find for the application and used in commercial application for the same purpose. It's a two part epoxy slurry in two separated compartments inside the caulk tube. It has a grainy texture, like it has cement dust in it too.

 

[txav8r]

Meant to say a sika product...

 

[txav8r]

I finished the rest of the holes without issue. I had one hole I did yesterday that I hit the rebar on, and as a result, it was only 3" deep instead of the 4.4" spec'ed by Hilti for their fastener. But the engineer said just cut the bolt 1.5" and bury it in the epoxy and that has worked and held torque no problem. I removed the second set of base plates after I finished installing them, cleaned under and wiped them, installed a rope caulk under where spec'ed, replaced the base plates, caulked a ring around each of the bolt holes, installed the square washers, washers, nuts, and realigned the plates. Then I torqued them all back down. I still have the first side to pull up and do the same to in the morning, and then I am ready to rock and roll on getting that building up. If I had 3 guys to help me tomorrow, I would get a start. If I end up working by myself, I will rent a Genie 34/20 for 750 per week. Rain coming this weekend however...

But using this would be slower than 3 or 4 guys and a scaffolding building and setting the 200 lb. arches one at a time. By myself, I can use this lift and set them alone...I thinkI'm wondering why we don't seem to have a praying hands imoje?

 

[Speedling]

What about that fork lift for lifting the arches in place? Should be easy!

 

[txav8r]

I think a for lift like that genie telehandler would be great. But I would still need scaffolding as the forklift wouldn't have a basket to lift personnel. So either scaffolding or sissor lift, or boom lift with basket. Not sure what other options I might have?

 

[Wayloncle]

I rented a lift like that for a weekend a few years ago to trim some trees, made me wish I owned one!

 

[Bruce]

I think a for lift like that genie telehandler would be great. But I would still need scaffolding as the forklift wouldn't have a basket to lift personnel. So either scaffolding or sissor lift, or boom lift with basket. Not sure what other options I might have?

Mel, I am not 100% familiar with your materials but I think a scissor lift could be an excellent option. You can lift both the people and materials and drive it around while elevated. I bought one for $5,500 when building my house and sold it a year later for $4,500. We used to it to move lots of materials. It saved us so much time. If your arches are in sections you could assemble them on the ground then use a rope from the scissor lift to stand them up.

 

[Murf'n'surf]

Mel, I am not 100% familiar with your materials but I think a scissor lift could be an excellent option. You can lift both the people and materials and drive it around while elevated. I bought one for $5,500 when building my house and sold it a year later for $4,500. We used to it to move lots of materials. It saved us so much time. If your arches are in sections you could assemble them on the ground then use a rope from the scissor lift to stand them up.

Did you forget his occupation? This is more likely the tool Mel would use....

Ahhh hell.....insert pic of a chinook heli here! Can't get my link to post.

 

[Bruce]

@Murf'n'surf, a Chinook sounds perfect other than the fuel consumption.

@txav8r, here are some pics in case they give you ideas.

 

[txav8r]

The scissor lift is a definite option. The pics you posted @Bruce give me a little more faith on its stability. I had a little concern about lateral stability when pulling the arches up. But again, I have to have at least two guys on the ground lifting while I pull, as each arch weighs about 200 pounds. I have several to help, just not at the same time. So I may go the boom lift from the standpoint to can lift and set by myself. It's slow by yourself however.

 

[Bruce]

@txav8r, my scissor lift weighed 7,000 pounds and that weight was low in the base. It was very stable. The controls are on the base as well as in the basket so you can operate it without being in the lift. If the lift tilts beyond a certain angle it refuses to go higher only allowing you to go down.

Mine had 4 wheel drive and mud tires but I believe you will always be on concrete so the small wheeled variety will work for you. I believe they are even more stable.

 

[Bruce]

In the picture with the SIP wall section on top of the lift that is an 8'x9' wall section at around 325 pounds. We often had the next 3 or 4 wall sections on the lift. My Dad and I would find the next sections and use long forks on the tractor to stack them on the lift. After we sent them up the third floor crew would slide them off and erect then. We used the lift for everything. We did not build stairs between the three floors until weeks after the house was dry.

 

[txav8r]

That's a way bigger lift then I've seen in the rental yards. That live probably cost me 2500 a week. Was it gas or electric? I wouldn't mind buying one for five or $6000, and selling it a few weeks later and taking a loss it be certainly cheaper than paying the rental .

 

[txav8r]

The base plates are caulked, torqued, and done!

 

[Bruce]

That's a way bigger lift then I've seen in the rental yards. That live probably cost me 2500 a week. Was it gas or electric? I wouldn't mind buying one for five or $6000, and selling it a few weeks later and taking a loss it be certainly cheaper than paying the rental .

It ran on gas and propane. Rental was $1,000 a month. I purchased from National Lift where it was posted for $7,500. I offered $5,500 and they said yes within minutes so I should have offered less. Rental business sales guys get commission on the difference in the sales price and the depreciated value. Units that have been in the rental fleet have been deprecated to very low values.

You would not need such a large lift. It was capable of lifting 27' which was perfect for my 32' top plates. Using the lift we installed the 30 windows in less than 6 hours.

 

[txav8r]

Were they local to you @Bruce ? I've been working so much I haven't had a chance to look around. That is a huge discount to price st $7500 and take $5500!

 

[Bruce]

Were they local to you @Bruce ? I've been working so much I haven't had a chance to look around. That is a huge discount to price st $7500 and take $5500!

I purchased mine from the Little Rock office. They actually delivered from NW Arkansas. Delivery was free on the purchase but I believe I would have been charged for a rental delivery. Follow this link to see what they have in inventory http://www.nleq.com/equipment-type/used-scissor-lifts-for-sale/12

 

[txav8r]

@Bruce , how do these lifts operate on a surface that isn't level? As I get to the end of my building, I will be off the foundation slab and on the connecting drive. It's not level.

 

[Bruce]

@Bruce , how do these lifts operate on a surface that isn't level? As I get to the end of my building, I will be off the foundation slab and on the connecting drive. It's not level.

They have maximum slope ratings which are not very high. We sometimes put shims under tires to level it out. Some have outriggers and may be self leveling.

But I would think the lift would be under the sections instead of outside of them.

 

[Speedling]

@Bruce , how do these lifts operate on a surface that isn't level? As I get to the end of my building, I will be off the foundation slab and on the connecting drive. It's not level.

And don't forget that it has a slide out on one side as well giving you a bit more room if needed. That way you can stay on the level comcrete. Don't be loading it up weight wise though!