Who would be interested in a group buy on impellers?

[Scotth]

Is a group buy still in the works? Looking to do mine in next 2-6 weeks. Still researching OEM vs. Solas etc. Some places I read "it's the best value upgrade you can do" and others "stick with OEM"...confused at this point. My 06' 210Sx has dropped to 40mph. I did plugs first and gained 2-3mph at sea level to 42/43 with 3/4 tank and 4 of us. Thinking I'll gain 5mph after fixing. Here's pics, noticeable damage! Must be making a diff, right?

 

[Bruce]

Is a group buy still in the works? Looking to do mine in next 2-6 weeks. Still researching OEM vs. Solas etc. Some places I read "it's the best value upgrade you can do" and others "stick with OEM"...confused at this point. My 06' 210Sx has dropped to 40mph. I did plugs first and gained 2-3mph at sea level to 42/43 with 3/4 tank and 4 of us. Thinking I'll gain 5mph after fixing. Here's pics, noticeable damage! Must be making a diff, right?

Your impellers certainly need work.

Whether you have them rebuilt for $100 a piece or replace with Solas you should see a performance improvement.

I plan to ask the impeller vendors if they are interested again in mid October.

 

[blacksapphirez]

cheaper than anything I've seen...
http://www.amazon.com/Solas-Concord-Impeller-Pitch-YS-CD-13/dp/B007GRFQJU

 

[swatski]

cheaper than anything I've seen...
http://www.amazon.com/Solas-Concord-Impeller-Pitch-YS-CD-13/dp/B007GRFQJU

Yes that is a great price!
For some reason I do not see the other link you sent posted in the thread:

replaceable wear ring and the liner
http://www.atlanticjetsport.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1702

 

[blacksapphirez]

i took it out after i saw this @Bruce posted

http://www.precisionmarinetools.com/yamaha-waverunner-pwc-replacement-jet-pump-housing-p-1.html

 

[dan144k]

When I did my impellers I ordered them from Amazon, price was good. then the next winter removed and sent to Impros for a repitch.

 

[Bruce]

When I did my impellers I ordered them from Amazon, price was good. then the next winter removed and sent to Impros for a repitch.

Were these for your 240? How was the performance changed from stock to Solas to Solas with repitching?

 

[Seadeals]

Here's pics, noticeable damage! Must be making a diff, right?

@Scotth on my 06SX210 the port impeller was looking a bit rough like one of yours. I had it refurbished by Impros three years ago hoping it would help speed and solve an rpm split I see on the tachs at WOT. The refurb looked (and still looks) fantastic but there was not a noticeable performance difference or RPM change. I am happy knowing it looks like new now. Your other side does not look very bad. I would at least refurb the one and see as it is cheap to do. It looks a bit worse than mine did. Do you get cavitation on that side?

 

[sysinu]

If part of this group buy includes tools for changing impellers, I would be in on the tools. I have 2 sets of impellers already. 1 for Lake Powell (3500') and 1 for not lake powell (6558').

 

[Scottintexas]

If part of this group buy includes tools for changing impellers, I would be in on the tools. I have 2 sets of impellers already. 1 for Lake Powell (3500') and 1 for not lake powell (6558').

You need to just buy new shafts to mount the other impellers on and then it just a easy pull the entire shaft and stick the other shaft with the impeller already on it in instead of having to use the impeller tool and risk it having it froze or stripping it.

 

[dan144k]

@Bruce Yes I have a 2010 AR240

I did a full write up at one point, link is bellow. Also info on other website.

If I was to do it again I think I would just get solas and put them in. Boat had great low end for surfing and never any cavitation. Still went 46mph.

Currently with the solas and repitched (port twice) I feel as if I get slight cavitation or a frothy jet with weight when surfing. But still much better than stock.

Also when going to the solas I did not get anymore impeller banging when boat out of water, so you guys may not need new pump housing.

https://jetboaters.net/threads/solas-impellers-before-and-after-impros-pitch-adjust.922/

 

[dan144k]

@sysinu @Scottintexas
You would need shaft, rear housing, cone, and bearings. You dont want to mess with pressing the shaft out every time, probably easier to unscrew impeller (neverseize helps)

Would make super easy 30 minute impeller change with shaft and bearing preassembled. Ideal for backup set, but expensive, unless you can find used from wrecked boat.

 

[dan144k]

Also the solas cones can become difficult, very small allen screws which strip out easily. If ordering parts I would order a few extra cones for just in case.

 

[Bruce]

I emailed Impros to ask if they would consider a group buy over the winter. I will be back in touch as soon as I hear from them.

 

[sysinu]

You need to just buy new shafts to mount the other impellers on and then it just a easy pull the entire shaft and stick the other shaft with the impeller already on it in instead of having to use the impeller tool and risk it having it froze or stripping it.

This is a GREAT idea. I totally didn't think about that and now it's very obvious that is the best way for me.

@sysinu @Scottintexas
You would need shaft, rear housing, cone, and bearings. You dont want to mess with pressing the shaft out every time, probably easier to unscrew impeller (neverseize helps)

Would make super easy 30 minute impeller change with shaft and bearing preassembled. Ideal for backup set, but expensive, unless you can find used from wrecked boat.

Doesn't the impeller and shaft just slide in and then all that stuff goes onto the impeller? I'm going to need to go and look at the parts list... pretty much what I do is take my boat to LP just after taking it out of winter storage, then it goes up to 6558' altitude for the rest of the season, with (usually, not this year though) one last trip to LP in September or October. Switching it 1.5 times a year, do you think I'd still need all the rest of that stuff beyond just the shaft?




edit: sorry for the mild hijack.

double edit: youtube answered my question and validated @dan144k 's comment. It looks like I would need everything between the cap and the impeller + the shaft to make the swap easy.

I'll just buy a spline tool and one of those super long wrenches.

 

[motorboater]

I have a spline tool if anyone wants to use it. We're moving in the near future so its likely i'll misplace it anyway, if I havent already. They arent expensive so might be more effort to mail it out than its worth, but the offer is out there anyway.

Changing the shaft would require a press to remove/install the bearings. The shafts are over $300 I think. You should never need to replace one.

Approach the impeller changing job with plenty of time, patience, beer, and muscle... and access to large breaker bars, wrenches, torches and bench vises. It can be a real bitch, and other times its cake. The dealer couldnt even do it, they gave up after breaking their workbench and vise. Believe it or not I was able to reuse the shaft that this impeller came off of!

I used Impros and wouldnt do it any other way. They custom pitched the impellers based on what I wanted using their proprietary methods and I couldnt be happier.

 

[blacksapphirez]

how much you talking? can you email me @ blacksapphirez@gmail.com

thanks

 

[dan144k]

@motorboater Just an FYI.
I was able to change the shaft without changing the bearings. I just installed a new shaft, new impeller, and new seals.
I don't know if it is possible to change the shaft with the impeller installed, it would seam difficult to me.

Another crazy idea; I have considered is removing and then reinstalling my impellers annually, just to keep the threads from freezing or seizeing up, and then reinstalling with neverseize.

Some older boats which have never had the impeller removed off the shaft, I would imagine may be a pain and very dificult. Guessing

 

[jcyamaharider]

Looking at impellers and wear rings, is this still an option? Group Buy?

 

[Chillypilot]

Me too!