Thoughts and demo rides of wake / towsports boats: Moomba Max, Axis A22, MB Sports

[haknslash]

We had a great vacation for a week at the lake. VRBO rental was real nice and we were protected in a secluded cove. Not ready to get back into the work grind!

 

[haknslash]

I’ve had my Max for 5 years and have learned a lot from it. She’s been a great boat but I feel it’s time for an upgrade. I recently put her in FB marketplace and working with my dealer to possibly purchase this 2024 Supra SV 400. It’s the same color blue as my Max but of course much different vibe. It has the new automated step down platform and a ton of nice updates for the 2024 Supras. We go for a demo on it next Saturday. I’ve already demoed the SV last year but on a different lake so putting her in much larger and rougher Lake Martin will be a good test!

I like the color way they chose on this one. Only option I wished it had was the flip up backrest seats for the sun pad. Those can be boat through Skiers Choice but it ain’t cheap lol. Might see if I can get them to roll the swap in with the deal. It a deal breaker option but they would be nice to have! Anyways here’s the boat I’m looking at…

 

[suke]

I’ve had my Max for 5 years and have learned a lot from it. She’s been a great boat but I feel it’s time for an upgrade. I recently put her in FB marketplace and working with my dealer to possibly purchase this 2024 Supra SV 400. It’s the same color blue as my Max but of course much different vibe. It has the new automated step down platform and a ton of nice updates for the 2024 Supras. We go for a demo on it next Saturday. I’ve already demoed the SV last year but on a different lake so putting her in much larger and rougher Lake Martin will be a good test!

I like the color way they chose on this one. Only option I wished it had was the flip up backrest seats for the sun pad. Those can be boat through Skiers Choice but it ain’t cheap lol. Might see if I can get them to roll the swap in with the deal. It a deal breaker option but they would be nice to have! Anyways here’s the boat I’m looking at…

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Holy smokes! That'll be quite the upgrade, but also like double + what your Max cost. I imagine there will be plenty of discount to be had there now a days.

 

[Farny]

I’ve had my Max for 5 years and have learned a lot from it. She’s been a great boat but I feel it’s time for an upgrade. I recently put her in FB marketplace and working with my dealer to possibly purchase this 2024 Supra SV 400. It’s the same color blue as my Max but of course much different vibe. It has the new automated step down platform and a ton of nice updates for the 2024 Supras. We go for a demo on it next Saturday. I’ve already demoed the SV last year but on a different lake so putting her in much larger and rougher Lake Martin will be a good test!

I like the color way they chose on this one. Only option I wished it had was the flip up backrest seats for the sun pad. Those can be boat through Skiers Choice but it ain’t cheap lol. Might see if I can get them to roll the swap in with the deal. It a deal breaker option but they would be nice to have! Anyways here’s the boat I’m looking at…

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Nice boat! For that price - consider a demo of the centurion RI as well.

 

[suke]

Nice boat! For that price - consider a demo of the centurion RI as well.

The Fe22 is an amazing choice in the Centurion line up.

 

[Farny]

The Fe22 is an amazing choice in the Centurion line up.

Yup and only $140k !

 

[suke]

Yup and only $140k !

If I could swing it I'd be in an Fe22 or a Supreme right now myself. However, it definitely comes down to the dealer. He may not have a good Centurion dealer nearby. We have a really good Axis/Malibu dealer and a really good Centurion/Supreme/Heyday dealer. Not sure I'd go with any other brands due to the dealer options near me. Assuming I tripped into a large pile of money first. LOL!

 

[haknslash]

No good or I should say established Centurion dealers near me. There is one at my lake but not holding my breath they would last for years and years since Centurion isn’t well known or well supported here. I like Centurion but I wouldn’t say their tech and interior quality is quite on par with Supra. Their wave of course is real nice but there is not any storage in any of the Centurions once you option them for all the plug and play ballast since those bags are not subfloor they would effectively mean no storage or at the least remove whatever is in storage lockers once you want to fill the bags. I don’t care to do that since I like having storage.

 

[Bartl007]

No good or I should say established Centurion dealers near me. There is one at my lake but not holding my breath they would last for years and years since Centurion isn’t well known or well supported here. I like Centurion but I wouldn’t say their tech and interior quality is quite on par with Supra. Their wave of course is real nice but there is not any storage in any of the Centurions once you option them for all the plug and play ballast since those bags are not subfloor they would effectively mean no storage or at the least remove whatever is in storage lockers once you want to fill the bags. I don’t care to do that since I like having storage.

May be worth a look at KYMA boats out of Tennessee. They are new and doing some cool things with how they test drive, service boats and you get the jet drive propulsion with dedicated wake surf features+sea keeper ride built in.

KYMA Boats

www.kymaboats.com

 

[Wicked92]

May be worth a look at KYMA boats out of Tennessee. They are new and doing some cool things with how they test drive, service boats and you get the jet drive propulsion with dedicated wake surf features+sea keeper ride built in.

KYMA Boats

www.kymaboats.com

While the kyma was very intriguing to me I think the price point is wrong. You have dedicated surf boats with alot more surfing features, interior a bit more modern, same power plant in some in the 140-175 range. They also are only showcasing the supercharged version, and it makes you question how the boat would be with just the raptor 440. Underpowered? Etc.....
The jump from 140 to 175k with just the engine choice seems crazy. Is that motor really an additional 35k in purchase standalone?

 

[Farny]

No good or I should say established Centurion dealers near me. There is one at my lake but not holding my breath they would last for years and years since Centurion isn’t well known or well supported here. I like Centurion but I wouldn’t say their tech and interior quality is quite on par with Supra. Their wave of course is real nice but there is not any storage in any of the Centurions once you option them for all the plug and play ballast since those bags are not subfloor they would effectively mean no storage or at the least remove whatever is in storage lockers once you want to fill the bags. I don’t care to do that since I like having storage.

Got to admit I am biased cause we love ours, Supreme, and to your point Dealer is definitely key, we have an awesome dealer about 45 minutes from me and centurion / supreme have been amazing on the support side. We demoed at moomba and Supra one of the reasons we went supreme is because on top of the wave performance- the interior and vinyl was amazing. ( don’t have many interior dedicated pics but this is what I’ve got) Depending on the boat storage is a lot or a ton. Although this isn’t a Supra comparison may give an idea.

 

[Farny]

If I could swing it I'd be in an Fe22 or a Supreme right now myself. However, it definitely comes down to the dealer. He may not have a good Centurion dealer nearby. We have a really good Axis/Malibu dealer and a really good Centurion/Supreme/Heyday dealer. Not sure I'd go with any other brands due to the dealer options near me. Assuming I tripped into a large pile of money first. LOL!

Market is soft and good time to take advantage- you could pick up lightly used newer, bad ass boat for 95ish.

 

[haknslash]

Yup if buying new dealer is certainly key. Ours has been great from day 1 and so has Skiers Choice. Don’t get me wrong I really like Supreme and Centurion and would love to give them a consideration but there just isn’t much support for them here. Mostly Supra/Moomba, MC, Malibu/Axis, Nautique. There are Centurions, Tige and other brands in the lakes but more rare to see here. There used to be an MB dealer but he closed a few years ago.

 

[haknslash]

An update on my Max. I have a few buyers lined up and it’s looking like the SV is quickly becoming a likely purchase soon. Wife is onboard and I can’t wait for the demo Saturday!

I like the subtle RGB on the new towers and speaker enclosure. Didn’t even realize this was a thing until scouring images tonight. Check it out!



I also didn’t realize there is a trash can onboard with a side door. On my Max I have a similar side door but it is access to the massive glove box. Having a trash can out of sight is a small thing but I love it versus our normal routine of move the trash bag around and hope it doesn’t break lol.

 

[Farny]

An update on my Max. I have a few buyers lined up and it’s looking like the SV is quickly becoming a likely purchase soon. Wife is onboard and I can’t wait for the demo Saturday!

I like the subtle RGB on the new towers and speaker enclosure. Didn’t even realize this was a thing until scouring images tonight. Check it out!

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I also didn’t realize there is a trash can onboard with a side door. On my Max I have a similar side door but it is access to the massive glove box. Having a trash can out of sight is a small thing but I love it versus our normal routine of move the trash bag around and hope it doesn’t break lol.

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Nice ! Trash can is often a necessity overlooked by manufacturers. Hope you are able to make the deals soon and enjoy a new toy.

 

[anmut]

I’ve had my Max for 5 years and have learned a lot from it. She’s been a great boat but I feel it’s time for an upgrade. I recently put her in FB marketplace and working with my dealer to possibly purchase this 2024 Supra SV 400. It’s the same color blue as my Max but of course much different vibe. It has the new automated step down platform and a ton of nice updates for the 2024 Supras. We go for a demo on it next Saturday. I’ve already demoed the SV last year but on a different lake so putting her in much larger and rougher Lake Martin will be a good test!

I like the color way they chose on this one. Only option I wished it had was the flip up backrest seats for the sun pad. Those can be boat through Skiers Choice but it ain’t cheap lol. Might see if I can get them to roll the swap in with the deal. It a deal breaker option but they would be nice to have! Anyways here’s the boat I’m looking at…

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DAMN! I've seen some late model Nautiques for sale for less than that, G23's even.

 

[suke]

Market is soft and good time to take advantage- you could pick up lightly used newer, bad ass boat for 95ish.

Yeah but with lending rates what they are that would be a crazy high payment. I'd need to pay all cash. Which if I had $95k to light on fire it likely wouldn't be on a boat. Also we still like to take our boat to the beach once or twice a year. Until my wife is over that I don't see a v-drive being an option. Kyma would be my best bet. I'd need to double my income for one of those things to happen, or my wife go back to work and quit with the crazy expensive vacations. LOL! I can't afford all of her vacations AND a 6 figure boat. I don't see those stopping any time soon. If the boat was all we did, then we could totally swing it.

 

[haknslash]

DAMN! I've seen some late model Nautiques for sale for less than that, G23's even.

That’s not the price I’m paying obviously lol. Buyers market right now in terms of mfg discounts. Rates are still 2-3% higher than 3 years ago but slowly coming down. Still a high payment but there are steep discounts right now with likely all recreational / non-essential “toys”.

 

[haknslash]

One thing I missed from my Yamaha was the swindeck ladder. so I bought one for my Max 2 years ago buy never got around to installing it. One of the options I for sure wanted on my next boat was a ladder or drop step and thankfully the SV I’m looking at has it optioned! I‘m a big guy and it’s laughable how I have to lung myself onto my Max’s swim platform that doesn’t have a ladder lol. Sometimes I’d fill some rear ballast to sink the ass end to help lower the swim platform. I wanted to do a proper ladder install which would mean through-bolting it which would also mean a new gatorstep for the swim platfom. Some guys just use 5200 and a lag bolt but I didn’t want to risk it even though nobody has issues doing it that way. Either way, the new powered drop step is a nice touch and one we will use every single time out! Goodbye bruised knees from climbing in lol.

 

[Wicked92]

One thing I missed from my Yamaha was the swindeck ladder. so I bought one for my Max 2 years ago buy never got around to installing it. One of the options I for sure wanted on my next boat was a ladder or drop step and thankfully the SV I’m looking at has it optioned! I‘m a big guy and it’s laughable how I have to lung myself onto my Max’s swim platform that doesn’t have a ladder lol. Sometimes I’d fill some rear ballast to sink the ass end to help lower the swim platform. I wanted to do a proper ladder install which would mean through-bolting it which would also mean a new gatorstep for the swim platfom. Some guys just use 5200 and a lag bolt but I didn’t want to risk it even though nobody has issues doing it that way. Either way, the new powered drop step is a nice touch and one we will use every single time out! Goodbye bruised knees from climbing in lol.

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What's your new boat gonna come in at $$$ wise. Reason I'm asking is I'm trying to gauge if I even consider the kyma at 140k with the non sc motor, or do they really need to think about their price point before going into full production.