5k tow limit

[jcyamaharider]

@PJ73 I just tagged you on that thread

 

[2kwik4u]

Here's another good read on the benefits of having a low overhang behind the real axle. I think @swatski commented about this in another thread in reference to small SUV's towing and how having the ball closer to the rear axle helps improve stability.

This article is in relation to 5th wheel campers, but the same "rear overhang percentage" will hold true for a boat trailer. We just can't ever get to zero
https://rvlifemag.com/pivoting-pin-box-or-sliding-hitch/

 

[suke]

Here's another good read on the benefits of having a low overhang behind the real axle. I think @swatski commented about this in another thread in reference to small SUV's towing and how having the ball closer to the rear axle helps improve stability.

This article is in relation to 5th wheel campers, but the same "rear overhang percentage" will hold true for a boat trailer. We just can't ever get to zero
Pivoting Pin Box or Sliding Hitch? - RV Lifestyle Magazine

Part of why I like towing with my jeep. The weight is basically right over the rear axle.

Not that I really want to, but my winch post is non movable, so I'm stuck with what I got. I've climbed on the back of the boat with my buddy and felt the front end get a smidge lighter but no risk of it pulling up. I weigh close to 200lbs and he's 160ish, so not quite 400lbs. I'd guess my tongue weight is somewhere in the 400-500lb range which is ideal for me. Does put me closer to the 10% range, but I want a little more weight there.

 

[Neutron]

I have moved my boat to get roughly 7% and with more than a few people on the swim platform and it has never lifted the front up.

 

[Beachbummer]

I think with the 2 axles it takes a lot of weight to move the boat. Single axle I would be less certain. (but speculating, I'm sure someone will point out if it has happened to them on a single axle)

 

[Jimxo]

Thanks for the input. I've decided I need to buy a used truck, or suv or trade my MDX for a full size Yukon or Expedition.

 

[bronze_10]

Before we bought our 3/4 ton ford truck we pulled the boat with an 05 dodge durango. (The large ugly one).. it has all wheel drive and a hemispheric so it had the to rating.. I could still feel the boat back there. It just made it squat a little too much for me. We were blinding people with our headlights at night. So, at the time not wanting to buy another tow vehicle i.put air bags under the back. It made an enormous difference. Once loaded it was hard to feel the boat at all. The truck was far more stable. I am not sure if it adds to the tow abilities of the vehicle but made it was a whole new world towing. ......... then 3 no this later we bought a truck.. still have the durango though. If needed I would use it to pull the boat anytime.

 

[swatski]

Or look at those... Crazy good prices for those Q7 TDIs...

The one with the fix is quite impressive. Just had a (would be) $5000 oil leak fixed on my Porsche for free from the warranty.

But yeah, 2K or so retail gets full delete kit, no more emissions, and more power and efficiency than ever before. No more adblue as well.

Even if that's what you wanted, I'd still sell it back and buy a newer one myself. There was a 2015 Cayenne diesel here locally, sub 20K miles for 42K. Something like that leaves 10K to play with still. If you need the 3rd row of the q7, here's a 2015 with 25K miles for 34K. Lots of clean low mileage examples out there.

Used Audi Q7 For Sale - CarGurus

 

[suke]

Before we bought our 3/4 ton ford truck we pulled the boat with an 05 dodge durango. (The large ugly one).. it has all wheel drive and a hemispheric so it had the to rating.. I could still feel the boat back there. It just made it squat a little too much for me. We were blinding people with our headlights at night. So, at the time not wanting to buy another tow vehicle i.put air bags under the back. It made an enormous difference. Once loaded it was hard to feel the boat at all. The truck was far more stable. I am not sure if it adds to the tow abilities of the vehicle but made it was a whole new world towing. ......... then 3 no this later we bought a truck.. still have the durango though. If needed I would use it to pull the boat anytime.

I've been really impressed with how my jeep tows my 212x with airbags. Where I store my boat is a dirt/gravel path uphill coming out with some fairly good size bumps to go over. Jeep idles right up that without an issue. Starting and stopping has been markably better than I predicted as well. I'll still likely stay close to home until it comes time to replace my jeep........or my wife convinces me to get the Jeep truck.

 

[tabbibus]

I've been looking at the expedition but man thats a lot of money. I need a tow vehicle for my 242 and its between the RAM 1500 and the F150 for me.

 

[suke]

Look used. I've seen XLTs with like 40k miles in the very low $20k range.

 

[swatski]

There are also some incredible deals on Q7 TDIs ("fixed" after diesel-gate 1st gen pre-2013) to be had, I'm told by a memeber here who just got one in Texas.

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[PJ73]

I've been looking at the expedition but man thats a lot of money. I need a tow vehicle for my 242 and its between the RAM 1500 and the F150 for me.

Toyota Tundra is the truck you're looking for...

 

[drewkaree]

@PJ73 what's the overall length of your Tundra? I can't find a straight answer on toyota.com - they give identical lengths for the double cab and the crew max. I was considering a Taco a few years back, and had to settle for the quick purchase of my F150. I usually keep the truck up north, but I'd like to be able to fit it in my garage if I have to bring it into town for the week, if the need arises. I thought a Tundra might be too long for my garage, hence the thought of the Taco. Looking at what I've got now, if a Tundra wouldn't fit in the garage, I'd buy another GX470 or 460, it actually has a higher tow rating than the Taco's and I could easily seat 5-7.

 

[tabbibus]

@PJ73 what's the overall length of your Tundra? I can't find a straight answer on toyota.com - they give identical lengths for the double cab and the crew max. I was considering a Taco a few years back, and had to settle for the quick purchase of my F150. I usually keep the truck up north, but I'd like to be able to fit it in my garage if I have to bring it into town for the week, if the need arises. I thought a Tundra might be too long for my garage, hence the thought of the Taco. Looking at what I've got now, if a Tundra wouldn't fit in the garage, I'd buy another GX470 or 460, it actually has a higher tow rating than the Taco's and I could easily seat 5-7.

What's wrong with the f150?

 

[drewkaree]

It was a stopgap at the time, it's showing its age now. Common issues to this model - needed brake lines replaced last year, shocks are sitting in the cab awaiting replacement, and I think the Gem module needs replacing, but it may be fine if I can ever find the time to test it out. If it's salvageable, then I would need to reseal the windshield (common cause of this issue) and it'd be fine for another 100k.

Nothing in particular, just a lot of little things, and it's just a regular cab, so taking anyone other than the wife presents a problem. it's a perfectly serviceable tow vehicle for the half-hour Drive to where the storage place is, but I would never rely on this thing as a daily driver until I could take a look at the gem module.

 

[PJ73]

I would say 18' 6" on my 2017 crew max.

 

[NORCAL-GAS]

I towed my 2018 242x around for one season with my 2009 Chevrolet Suburban 1500 4x4. It had the v8 and no had tow package. It was rated at 5500 tow lbs. it was not enough. I mainly towed it around folsom lake and not cal. When I drove to lake Shasta and most definitely Lake Tahoe the suburban was over loaded. The 242x weighs 5700 on the trailer with gas.

I ended up getting a 2018 Yukon xl Denali. It’s rated to tow 8500 lbs. it is set up way better to tow.

I broke two motor mounts on the suburban towing. The brakes were going, it wasn’t safe to me.

 

[PJ73]

Tundra has a towing capacity of 10,000 lbs, 5.7L at about 390 hp, 405 ft lbs torque and a 4:30 rear end. Oh, she can tow.

 

[veedubtek]

All while getting at like 4 gallons to the mile!

I liked my Tundra, but the mileage was atrocious. She was a beast though.