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Questions on Battery Basics

bonehunts

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PLEASE DON'T POST-SHAME ME.
Long post but I'll try and be succinct.
I have a stock two-battery set-up in my 242 LSE and the previous owner put in two Interstate 24M-XHD cranking batteries in right before i bought it (3 yrs ago). The batteries are wired in parallel and, as best I can remember, when I took the batteries out for the winter, almost all of the wiring connections were on one battery.
I've been having issues with error messages on the Connext about the Electronic Drive and best I can tell it's happening due to low voltage. They are always on a two-bank charger so, theoretically, they should always be charged up when I go out.

I'm going to charge them here at home and take them to get load tested. I will likely go ahead and get two new ones which is where I need the real advice.

Would you recommend the same Group 24 size?
AGM or not? Is it worth the expense?
Both cranking batteries or any deep cycle?
My boat goes from the lift onto the lake to cruise/tube then back to the lift. I do not float and crank music.
I have added an additional Wet Sounds amp driving a sub so I've got 2 amps, 2 tower speakers and 8 interior speakers.
When I reconnect batteries, does it matter what connections are on each battery?
School me on what my switch selection(s) should be.

Thanks guys.
Sorry...this is the only pic I seem to have of what I had in there.
 

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marcham

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I'm not familiar with your exact model but I would expect that you have a starting battery and a house battery. The Amp should be on the house battery.

The only time the batteries should be in parallel is when the engine is running, the rest of the time, I would expect they be separated. This should happen automatically

Do you have a picture of the battery switch? That would help.

If you suspect low voltage, do you have a voltmeter to ,measure at the battery? Can you check the water level in the batteries?

Loose connections in the wiring often behaves like low voltage as well.
 

bonehunts

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Here's a pic of the switch that is identical to mine.
I had previously checked voltage and one was 13.6 and the other 12.2.
I pulled them and brought them home and just went out and checked water levels. Looks like one battery's cells are all full and the other is low in every cell.
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FSH 210 Sport

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First, regarding the above picture, do you see the problem? The emergency parallel is in the on position. This should never be this way unless there is an “emergency“ where the start battery needs a boost from the house battery to start the engines, and is then turned off after the engines are running. During normal ops, house and start are on, and emergency parallel is off.

Next, the issues you mention about the error messages on the connext, these are from what I’ve read on this site related to low battery voltage.

The fact that you have a battery with low water levels is not good, are the plates exposed above the water? If so then it is toast. Question, which battery had the low water level on? Was it the one with all of the connections on it? If so is that the one that is connected to the “house” battery switch?

If you do not have an onboard charger then that is something that needs to be corrected. The charging system on our boats are not sufficient to re charge the batteries properly. You need an onboard charger with at least 10 Amps of charging power per battery, 20 Amps is better with RV / Marine deep cycle batteries whether flooded or AGM. Also, if you go with flooded lead acid batteries said onboard charger needs to have an equalizing charge function on it, this is crucial to keeping flooded lead acid batteries at their peak performance and making them last as long as possible.

As far as which battery type, the lowest cost per Ah/KWh are the flooded lead acid batteries, like the ones in your first picture. Those are solid flooded lead acid batteries. Autozone has their own house brand of Duralast batteries that I think are super great based on my experience with them. And in the research I have seen, the flooded lead acid batteries of a given size have more Ah/KWh’s than the AGM. The AGM’s are sealed which is really nice in a compartment like yours where the batteries are exposed. My suggestion would be to get whatever batteries you choose into some battery boxes.

I would buy a dedicated cranking battery as they often times have higher CCA ratings than a dedicated deep cycle battery and conversely a deep cycle battery has more Ah / KWh’s of energy than a ”start” battery. You can get dual purpose batteries as well.

Based on your described usage just stay with a group 24 size of battery.

I would put all of the connections back the way you found them.

Again, get a good on board charger with at least 10A of charging current for each bank. And there are several threads on this, take the operational power for the dvsr and hook it up to the switched side of the house or start battery so that the dvsr is in operative while the boat is on the lift and the on board battery charger is charging the batteries.

Did that address all of your question's?
 

bonehunts

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Thanks for the thorough response. Note: I see the issue with the above switch position but, again, I note that this was purely a pic from the web. I only have Emergency Parallel on when I'm stuck on the water and need the extra juice to start.
I do have an onboard dual bank charger as well. I'll end up getting two new flooded batteries in the spring and may consider a cranking battery and changing the other to a deep cycle, or dual cycle.
 
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