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Sugar Sands Tango randomly dies or won't start

Discussion in 'Sugar Sand Jet Boats' started by Stormcat918, Sep 6, 2016.

  1. Ronnie

    Ronnie Jetboaters Admiral

    Messages:
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    Location:
    SF Bay Area
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    +3,577 / 62
    Boat Make:
    Yamaha
    Year:
    2010
    Boat Model:
    Limited S
    Boat Length:
    24
    Sorry to hear you are still having issues.
    I'd go for the rebuild v. Just the cleaning of the carbs since the carbs will be apart either way.

    Hopefully this will resolve your problems and you can move on to the fun part of boat ownership. That saying you quoted isn't true for everyone.
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2016
  2. 4x15mph

    4x15mph Jetboaters Lieutenant

    Messages:
    1,378
    Location:
    Downingtown, PA
    Ratings:
    +669 / 8
    Boat Make:
    Yamaha
    Year:
    2001
    Boat Model:
    LS
    Boat Length:
    19
    A rebuild and cleaning would be a good idea since they are one of the keys to preventative problems. You also cleaned/replaced up the fuel line and systems which was another good preventative fix. Looking to see some pics soon
     
  3. Stormcat918

    Stormcat918 New Member

    Messages:
    12
    Location:
    33760
    Ratings:
    +9 / 0
    Boat Make:
    Sugar Sands
    Year:
    1998
    Boat Model:
    Other
    Boat Length:
    16
    Hey everyone! After grueling months of messing around with this issue, I have finally fixed the problem. I rebuilt all three cards as well as the fuel pump. Neither of them fixed the problem. At this point I knew that nothing in the fuel system was the problem. I found the service manual online and ran through testing of the electrical (spark) side of things. Turns out that one bank of cylinders was very intermittent. When I initially started troubleshooting this problem last year, my inline spark tester showed good on all cylinders which is why I originally target the fuel side. I disconnected the stator and trigger and found that one side of the stator was out of tolerance. I replaced the stator and that still didn't fix the problem. The only thing that was left that could cause an entire bank of cylinders to be intermittent was a switchbox. I replaced the switchbox this morning and she is running better than she ever has since I've owned the boat!
     
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  4. jeff B

    jeff B New Member

    Messages:
    11
    Location:
    Knysna, western cape, South Africa
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0
    Boat Make:
    Sugar Sands
    Year:
    2002
    Boat Model:
    Other
    Boat Length:
    17
    Hi...a totally irrelevant question BUT...have just bought a Sugar Sand Tango with 175hp engine.
    In your thread you indicate you run your boat at home out of the water.
    I always thought you had to have water on the jet unit before running it...to protect certain bearings.
    Would really appreciate your comments and advice re this issue....cheers
     
  5. Bilmon

    Bilmon Jet Boat Junkie

    Messages:
    317
    Location:
    freeport il
    Ratings:
    +374 / 2
    Boat Make:
    Sugar Sands
    Year:
    2003
    Boat Model:
    Other
    Boat Length:
    18
    Hi Jeff You should have a flushing attachment on your engine Looks like a length of garden hose with a male plug in it. Likely clipped to the top rear of your engine, at least that's where it is on my 240. Hook up to hose, turn on water and then start motor. Ok to run at idle, don't rev it up though.
     
  6. jeff B

    jeff B New Member

    Messages:
    11
    Location:
    Knysna, western cape, South Africa
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0
    Boat Make:
    Sugar Sands
    Year:
    2002
    Boat Model:
    Other
    Boat Length:
    17
    Yes, I do have that connection, my concern is about runnning the actual jet unit out of the water. I have previously owned Hamilton Jets and these must be “in the water” before running up as the bearings are all water cooled...
    Are you indicating that the water from the hose passes through the engine and then int9 the jet unit, thereby ensuring the units bearings are already lubricated?
    Cheers and many thanks for your assistance
    Jef& B
     
  7. Bilmon

    Bilmon Jet Boat Junkie

    Messages:
    317
    Location:
    freeport il
    Ratings:
    +374 / 2
    Boat Make:
    Sugar Sands
    Year:
    2003
    Boat Model:
    Other
    Boat Length:
    18
    Ok to run on hose. The pump bearings run in an oil bath both fore and aft of the impeller, which by the way, should be changed annually

    Bill
     
  8. WILL IHNE

    WILL IHNE New Member

    Messages:
    16
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0
    Boat Make:
    Sugar Sands
    Year:
    2001
    Boat Model:
    Other
    Boat Length:
    17
    This sounds exactly like the issue I am having with my 2001 Tango 4x2 with the 175
     
  9. WILL IHNE

    WILL IHNE New Member

    Messages:
    16
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0
    Boat Make:
    Sugar Sands
    Year:
    2001
    Boat Model:
    Other
    Boat Length:
    17
    After a fuel pump rebuild mine is starting right up and stays running for the moment, I will be heading out to the water this coming Sunday and will have a update afterwards
     
  10. WILL IHNE

    WILL IHNE New Member

    Messages:
    16
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0
    Boat Make:
    Sugar Sands
    Year:
    2001
    Boat Model:
    Other
    Boat Length:
    17
    Be sure that the block to pump gasket is correct on it
     

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