Towing with Tesla Model X

[Peelz]

@Tyguy @J-RAD You guys see the release of Lincoln partnering up with Rivian?

Lincoln will build an electric vehicle using EV startup Rivian’s tech

It will be Lincoln’s first all-electric vehicle

www.theverge.com

EV towing is coming.......

i saw that. VERY interested. I do wonder whats becoming of the Rivian itself. IS the whole thing being parlayed into a Ford product? Or will Rivian still produce their own along side it....? tbh, the styling of the Rivian could be easily tweaked into a Lincoln...which have become pretty good looking cars....

 

[Tyguy]

Why is there a GMC logo in the bottom right corner there?

From what I read, it'll be a GMC vehicle with a Hummer badge, like the electric Ford Mustang EV using the Mustang name but not really being an actual one. My guess is they'll build off an existing GM platform given the short development time, and then use accents like the iconic grill to give it a hummer vibe. Good to see more options out there and the HP and torque specs make this thing look like a monster.

 

[J-RAD]

@Tyguy @J-RAD You guys see the release of Lincoln partnering up with Rivian?

Lincoln will build an electric vehicle using EV startup Rivian’s tech

It will be Lincoln’s first all-electric vehicle

www.theverge.com

EV towing is coming.......

I had heard of the Ford investment but nothing under the Lincoln. Makes sense. I think any truck brand is going to have to have an offering.

Why is there a GMC logo in the bottom right corner there?

I didn't catch that... I would expect to see a GM tag, but that's weird.

 

[J-RAD]

That's cool. I've seen it referenced as a truck versus the SUV form factor that made up most Hummers. Any idea which body it will have? Truck or SUV?

There've given very little information as far as I know. Just the specs above, a date of May 20th, and rumors of a Super Bowl ad.

 

[anmut]

New hummer is supposed to have 1000hp and more than that tq. GM making a big move. Range will probably be 5 miles though.

Seriously, The Electric Hummer Is A Total Change In How We Think About EVs

As modern as they seem, electric vehicles have actually been around a very long time, since the dawn of the motorcar era at the turn of the 20th century. Even after losing out to gasoline vehicles, they’ve always been around quietly lurking in the background of automobildom. The way we perceive...

jalopnik.com

 

[2kwik4u]

@J-RAD This was in my inbox when I got back from lunch.

As a current and happy GMC owner. If this thing looks even remotely decent, and has relatively decent range spec's.....It'll go to the top of my EV truck list.



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Video has some very "KITT" looking headlights.

Additional videos in the bottom state 11,500ft-lbs of torque......wowza

 

[J-RAD]

@J-RAD This was in my inbox when I got back from lunch.

As a current and happy GMC owner. If this thing looks even remotely decent, and has relatively decent range spec's.....It'll go to the top of my EV truck list.

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Learn More Link

Video has some very "KITT" looking headlights.

Additional videos in the bottom state 11,500ft-lbs of torque......wowza

Definitely looks like they're ready to party with the others. It's piquing my interest for sure, for both this and whatever Chevy will bringing to the table, assuming it's similar tech and specs. We know the electric F150 is going to attract buyers. It's just exciting to see the competitive innovation that's going on.

 

[tabbibus]

Love to see all these new EVs. Main thing I still see lacking in the Tesla competition is a robust charging network. Otherwise they are just cool commuter vehicles.

 

[MattFX4]

Love to see all these new EVs. Main thing I still see lacking in the Tesla competition is a robust charging network. Otherwise they are just cool commuter vehicles.

For now, but I think that will eventually change. Non Tesla's can't use the Tesla chargers? Maybe with an adapter, or are they for Tesla only? In order for EV's to really take off the charging networks can't be proprietary to each brand. We need a universal charging network like we have fuel stations now.

 

[2kwik4u]

Love to see all these new EVs. Main thing I still see lacking in the Tesla competition is a robust charging network. Otherwise they are just cool commuter vehicles.

I agree. Infrastructure will take time to adjust. Has to be profitable for many companies to make the leap. Only a few companies (like Tesla) are out there that are willing to put so much time/effort/money into the concept with such a long ROI. Interestingly I saw Tesla finally showed a profit last year. That is excellent news IMO.

Anyone know how/when/who standardized the fossil fuel refueling interface? That diameter/flowrate/interface HAD to have come from somewhere. Who did that initially, and how do we end up with the same thing for electricity?

 

[adrianp89]

I think the thing for me is how Tesla does it. If they build an electric truck and is no different than Silverado except it's electric, then I won't even bother. If the truck has controls from my phone, one pedal driving, auto-pilot features and such.... then you have my interest.

 

[adrianp89]

I agree. Infrastructure will take time to adjust. Has to be profitable for many companies to make the leap. Only a few companies (like Tesla) are out there that are willing to put so much time/effort/money into the concept with such a long ROI. Interestingly I saw Tesla finally showed a profit last year. That is excellent news IMO.

Anyone know how/when/who standardized the fossil fuel refueling interface? That diameter/flowrate/interface HAD to have come from somewhere. Who did that initially, and how do we end up with the same thing for electricity?

Some quick reading shows it was big oil companies that started fill ups stations. Before that, you bought gas at a pharmacy or something of that nature. The money was to be made in selling the premium branded gasoline, so they built the stations. Then stores realized they could sell unbranded gasoline for cheaper - then that evolved into what it is today. The infrastructure baseline is there to make the change. Convenience stores just needs to install chargers. There are already 10,000s of locations and they already have electricity. They just need the incentive to make the investment. This could happen if store sales fall due to a fall in gasoline sales. As of now, they have the inventive to become first adopters and steal business from other convenience stores.

 

[tabbibus]

For now, but I think that will eventually change. Non Tesla's can't use the Tesla chargers? Maybe with an adapter, or are they for Tesla only? In order for EV's to really take off the charging networks can't be proprietary to each brand. We need a universal charging network like we have fuel stations now.

Only Teslas can use the chargers, AFAIK. A universal standard sorta exists... all the other charging station companies can be used by all the other EVs. Even Tesla has an adaptor for us to use a "regular" charger. But they are super slow, hard to find, not reliable, some times in a sketchy location...

 

[adrianp89]

Only Teslas can use the chargers, AFAIK. A universal standard sorta exists... all the other charging station companies can be used by all the other EVs. Even Tesla has an adaptor for us to use a "regular" charger. But they are super slow, hard to find, not reliable, some times in a sketchy location...

I would disagree with all statements about the regular chargers. I find them quite often and they are usually in the best parking spots. I have never had one fail, and they charge at the same rate as at home. The last several parking garages I have been to all have chargers right next to the elevators. (Most of these were free, the only one to charge was Disney and they gave me a $10 credit for signing up). Last three hotels I went to had them. A lot of the larger companies with HQs here offer several charging spaces as well. When my wife goes on the road, I take her car to my work and charge up for free that next day. Granted I live in a densely populated area which helps, but lack of charging is not a issue in Tampa Bay, Orlando or Jacksonville.

 

[tabbibus]

I would disagree with all statements about the regular chargers. I find them quite often and they are usually in the best parking spots. I have never had one fail, and they charge at the same rate as at home. The last several parking garages I have been to all have chargers right next to the elevators. (Most of these were free, the only one to charge was Disney and they gave me a $10 credit for signing up). Last three hotels I went to had them. A lot of the larger companies with HQs here offer several charging spaces as well. When my wife goes on the road, I take her car to my work and charge up for free that next day. Granted I live in a densely populated area which helps, but lack of charging is not a issue in Tampa Bay, Orlando or Jacksonville.

thanks for the insight. I may have a biased experience. When I had a ford focus electric, about 3 years ago, the suckitud of the chargers was really apparent. I'm happy to hear that it has improved. Can they compete with speed of charging, like the superchargers?

 

[adrianp89]

thanks for the insight. I may have a biased experience. When I had a ford focus electric, about 3 years ago, the suckitud of the chargers was really apparent. I'm happy to hear that it has improved. Can they compete with speed of charging, like the superchargers?

I would say absolutely not lol. I have only used a supercharger once. We were at 45% (which is higher than reccomended for the SC, but it was the only right off the interstate for our trip). We walked to Panera across the parking lot, ate and came back and we were at 97%. From my understanding if you are around 10% you can get up to over 50% in a few minutes.

For perspective, this morning the Tesla was at ~50% when I got to work at 8am and was finished charging to 90% around 1230ish.

 

[tabbibus]

yeah man. SC are the bomb. we usually haven't finished our food when we get the app notification saying it is almost done charging!

 

[Dean P]

I would say absolutely not lol. I have only used a supercharger once. We were at 45% (which is higher than reccomended for the SC, but it was the only right off the interstate for our trip). We walked to Panera across the parking lot, ate and came back and we were at 97%. From my understanding if you are around 10% you can get up to over 50% in a few minutes.

For perspective, this morning the Tesla was at ~50% when I got to work at 8am and was finished charging to 90% around 1230ish.

Did you have to pay for the SC? Mine was free for 1 year, now I pay.

 

[adrianp89]

Did you have to pay for the SC? Mine was free for 1 year, now I pay.

We have "1000" free miles. What that equates to - I have no idea.

 

[anmut]

Until there's a battery swap system or 10min-til-full charging, there won't be any mass adaptation. Go sit at a local gas station and count the cars that show up for a half hour. The imagine all those cars needing to sit for 30-60 minutes. Also, yes there's electricity at these gas stations, but I would suspect that they don't have the connection to support 15 240v+ stations.

NIO, a chinese EV company, came up with a hot-swap battery system where it's like going through a car wash cycle. That's probably the best solution, however then you have the issue of relying on robotics and storing/charging hundreds of fuel cell packages.