Yamaha surf wake wedge reveal!!! Warning pic heavy

[Bruce]

@farrelltravis, the tower is not needed for wake surfing. Everyone who has tried to surf behind my boat has been able to do so. Even those that learned to surf with a tower .

 

[farrelltravis]

Well, I guess after reading everyone's comment a tower is not absolutely required for wakesurfing. Just to avoid confusion, here is a video to show that a tower is not required for wakeboarding (along with skiing) either.


EDIT - The below is actually a video. Just click on it, and it should play.

 

[lashburn1]

@lashburn1 I have had several wakeboarders have no problem getting up without a tower on my boat. However, I haven't had any wakesurfers get up behind my boat without a tower. Are other non-towered boats not having the same results?

Well, I would get one then,,,,its also great for Holding Speakers, Boards and the Bimini!!

 

[jcyamaharider]

Ballast is still needed, the hull has to list over a little bit to shape the wake, our product just deflects the jet wash as described so we can take advantage of what the hull already does but is hidden by the jet wash.

Now you don't have to run a ton of ballast like we are but I have always went to the extreme when I have started a hobby.

We will get pictures this weekend of both boats without ballast and work our way up. and show what exactly each weight addition does.

 

[lashburn1]

Here is a still shot of GEN-2 on a MasterCraft X-30 2014 Properly Weighted.
Factory Hard Tanks Full (approx 1000lbs) + 2-750 bags in rear lockers , + 500lb lead shot bags evenly around the Boat.

at $92 k Street Price...this Wake is not TOO much better than JC @ SXs Device and ballast system..

$800 and 3000lb of ballast gets this pretty close...

 

[BigN8]

Has anyone ever tried surfing with the surf side engine at idle and the non surf engine actually providing the thrust?

 

[Bruce]

Placing these two pictures side by side for comparison. Left is @lashburn1's X30 right is @sx210owner's 210 with ballast and the surf wedge. The surf wedge certainly cleans up the wake!

 

[jcyamaharider]

Ya think?? LOL

 

[Gym]

Just a quick question as a wannabe boarder. What's the deal if I get stopped or have an accident in my SX230 that has an 1800 lb max load and I have 3000lbs of ballast and another 1500 lbs of people gear and fuel? Great wake by the way.

 

[lashburn1]

Has anyone ever tried surfing with the surf side engine at idle and the non surf engine actually providing the thrust?

Yup....only marginal difference

 

[lashburn1]

Just a quick question as a wannabe boarder. What's the deal if I get stopped or have an accident in my SX230 that has an 1800 lb max load and I have 3000lbs of ballast and another 2100 lbs of people gear and fuel?

there are countless arguments about how to handle this..... None are convincing....you need to do what is best for YOU and your boating safety within the environment you Boat in...

 

[sysinu]

Has anyone ever tried surfing with the surf side engine at idle and the non surf engine actually providing the thrust?

Yes, and if you're surfing regular and have the port engine rev'd down from starboard, and then run the starboard engine harder and turn right (opposite of what you want) with the port weighted down... it will elongate the wake and clean it up a LOT. But it won't be nearly as steep as it would be if you were going straight with the surf side deeper in the water.

 

[davel501]

Just a quick question as a wannabe boarder. What's the deal if I get stopped or have an accident in my SX230 that has an 1800 lb max load and I have 3000lbs of ballast and another 1500 lbs of people gear and fuel? Great wake by the way.

At the very least you would get a ticket but you could also face jail time depending on the severity of the accident and your state's laws. I doubt your insurance would cover any of it either.

 

[davel501]

Here is a still shot of GEN-2 on a MasterCraft X-30 2014 Properly Weighted.
Factory Hard Tanks Full (approx 1000lbs) + 2-750 bags in rear lockers , + 500lb lead shot bags evenly around the Boat.

at $92 k Street Price...this Wake is not TOO much better than JC @ SXs Device and ballast system..

$800 and 3000lb of ballast gets this pretty close...


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The wedge and a ballast system is probably $1500 total...or about the same as a Perfect Pass on the group buy. You can probably guess what is on my winter project list.

 

[Addicted]

Ya think?? LOL

 

[Addicted]

I am truly addicted to surfing and after spending countless hours on my buddies Tige, I have been even more motivated to improve the surf wake on my Yamaha. I have tried almost every combination of ballast and have not been even close to what I would consider acceptable. Your pictures above are impressive to say the least! I am excited about your design and am looking forward to your announcement that it is available for the 240 series boats. I would buy one today if available.

As mentioned above, mounting the wedge to the swim ladder platform was a bit of a red flag for me. I would imaging that the design of this product places a substantial amount of force on the mounting points. Any concerns from your end, or am I over thinking it?

The wake produced appears to be fantastic. Looking forward to the opportunity to try it out!

 

[jcyamaharider]

I think you are over thinking it....these ladders were designed to have a substantial down force applied to them.....we are not blocking the jet flow but just simply kissing the top of the jet flow to force it down. There is pressure on the product but not as much as you guys/gals are thinking. I have tried to fully block the jet flow with no better results so there is no need to do that. When I did do this the product and ladder had no bad side effects.

 

[ar240owner]

It does NOT put that much force on the ladder , in the early testing it was just a board on hinges and I used my foot to push it down , at the most prob 30-40 pounds , people put more stress on the ladder that the wedge does !!!I will post that vid up when I get a chance

 

[Addicted]

Thanks for the explanation. I was thinking that the combined force of the jet as well as the wedge moving through the water would add up to quite a bit of force. Your description of pushing the prototype down with just your foot makes me feel more comfortable. These ladders must be designed for at least 300-400lbs of dead load (split between both sides). You pushing the wedge down with your foot is certainly nowhere near that.

 

[jcyamaharider]

Thanks for the explanation. I was thinking that the combined force of the jet as well as the wedge moving through the water would add up to quite a bit of force. Your description of pushing the prototype down with just your foot makes me feel more comfortable. These ladders must be designed for at least 300-400lbs of dead load (split between both sides). You pushing the wedge down with your foot is certainly nowhere near that.

You got it!!!