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Hitting the hull with lateral flow will redirect the thrust... on one side.
What I was trying to say is that splitting the flow leaving the nozzle all by itself (assuming the down angle is the same) doesn't change anything, the net flow math is still the same for the forces at the point all the thrust is leaving the nozzle. The only change would come from the new flow paths hitting or not hitting the hull, intentional or not. Like you say, maybe they are using the hull as a diverter.
I can't go into to much detail on the where or how but yes I have seen the prototype that was being tested.
The boat looked almost identical to a 240 in seat layout just bigger. The one real noticeable change was the tower was a hard top versus a canvas tower whether the will roll over into product I don't know. I do not have any specs on it. The tower looked more like the below picture.Sounds like he's seen it
Ok so let's say it does come out, is the beam going to be any wider I wonder? The hull will obviously be entirely new as will the deck. Trying to imagine the seating configuration and overall layout. With the extra length you could actually have a head that could be useable for anyone other than small kids or those not claustrophobic. I'd like see a wide bow layout but more room focus in the cockpit than in the bow. True length of boat/cockpit would likely put it in the 24.5'-25' boat class. That's going to be a really tough market to fight into but this could be interesting to say the least.
What would you have done? They make a great product already. Pathetic is a bit of a over statement, don't ya think? They could have easily only changed the color and called in a 2019. Appreciate the innovation they working on because they could certainty sit on their ass and change nothing, the boats still sell them selves.
I appreciate the effort but really doesn't look like it would be as effective as the JBP LTs and now unfortunately, if you buy a '19 model, you'd have to find a way to retrofit a old style nozzle to the pump in order to still use the LTs. I know spoken like a true LT fan boy (love those things). Granted I haven't seen these new nozzles in action and hopefully we'll be pleasantly surprised by their effectiveness.
Yeah I get it. But kinda sounds like what you want is a real wake boat like a Malibu or such.
IMO Yamaha sits right in the niche between runabouts and wake boats. Both in price point and in range of use and one of the reasons they do so well. If Yamaha was to create full wake boat it would likely push the price point and usage range so close to a wake boat that most of us would just buy a wake boat instead. At least that is where I'd end up. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But everyone has their own perspective so I get what you are saying.
The ‘19 242x is just under 80k with the price increase. A 27 with twin supercharged engines would easily top $100k. A lot fewer buyers at that price point. Not saying it won’t happen, but companies market to their tried and true base.
Probably not as effective as LTs, sure. I love mine. But if what this offers is maybe, half as good as LTs? I'm not sure I would have been persuaded to buy them.
It would need 75 to 100 gallon tank.
. 75-100 gallon tank at a MINIMUM would be required unless you plan to just park it all day at which point just get a 27' pontoon lol.
Bingo!
You have a point. When I started looking at new boats this year, I couldn't decide if I should just stay with a normal I/O 21 ft bowrider (Monterey, Sea Ray, Regal...) or go to wake. I looked at the Yamahas, talked to a couple people who own jet boats and for me, it was the best of both worlds. I get a solid 21 ft, no prop (wife always worried about that with the kids) and it gives you a taste of some good water sports for a reasonable price, it can do what normal I/Os cant but just a bit of what a wake boat can do. Just my opinion.Yeah I get it. But kinda sounds like what you want is a real wake boat like a Malibu or such.
I was only told a rough price estimate and it was in that 100k range I had the same thought no way. If I spend 100k on a boat the fit and finish would need to be significantly higher then anything I have seen Yamaha throw out.
One guarantee, a price increase across the line.
