2019 Release coming soon!

[SamCF]

Based on the Waverunner pricing, the SVHO upgrade would only be $4400. The fuel economy would probably pretty bad.

 

[swatski]

With yamaha's new design, turning the wheel, the NET flow is still the exact same, just hopefully finding cleaner water and not just hitting the hull.

Hitting the hull with lateral flow will redirect the thrust... on one side.
That's kind of the point, I think, so the net flow is not the same.

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[ptwb]

Hitting the hull with lateral flow will redirect the thrust... on one side.
That's kind of the point, I think, so the net flow is not the same.
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What I was trying to say is that splitting the flow leaving the nozzle all by itself (assuming the down angle is the same) doesn't change anything, the net flow math is still the same for the forces at the point all the thrust is leaving the nozzle. The only change would come from the new flow paths hitting or not hitting the hull, intentional or not. Like you say, maybe they are using the hull as a diverter.

On our current boats, the reverse is aimed down enough that even if we attached a splitter to it, I doubt anything would change. We would have to split it, and angle it sharper and more forward so that it hits the hull OR attach a fixed 2nd piece to the bottom of the pump that does not rotate that catches the thrust when turned hard and sends it laterally.

 

[the MfM]

Looks like the aftermarket steering systems are going to have to be redesigned.

 

[Chillypilot]

Hopefully there is more to the 2019 release than a modified nozzle. How lame! I spend 99.9 percent of my time going forward. Seriously pathetic IMHO!

 

[robert843]

Your comment from page 2 is contradicting what you said here on this page...




Is there sarcasm I'm missing or explanation in another thread? Seen or not seen?

Your comment from page 2 is contradicting what you said here on this page...




Is there sarcasm I'm missing or explanation in another thread? Seen or not seen?

I can't go into to much detail on the where or how but yes I have seen the prototype that was being tested.

Sounds like he's seen it

Ok so let's say it does come out, is the beam going to be any wider I wonder? The hull will obviously be entirely new as will the deck. Trying to imagine the seating configuration and overall layout. With the extra length you could actually have a head that could be useable for anyone other than small kids or those not claustrophobic. I'd like see a wide bow layout but more room focus in the cockpit than in the bow. True length of boat/cockpit would likely put it in the 24.5'-25' boat class. That's going to be a really tough market to fight into but this could be interesting to say the least.

The boat looked almost identical to a 240 in seat layout just bigger. The one real noticeable change was the tower was a hard top versus a canvas tower whether the will roll over into product I don't know. I do not have any specs on it. The tower looked more like the below picture.

 

[adrianp89]

Hopefully there is more to the 2019 release than a modified nozzle. How lame! I spend 99.9 percent of my time going forward. Seriously pathetic IMHO!

What would you have done? They make a great product already. Pathetic is a bit of a over statement, don't ya think? They could have easily only changed the color and called in a 2019. Appreciate the innovation they working on because they could certainty sit on their ass and change nothing, the boats still sell them selves.

 

[MidnightRider]

What would you have done? They make a great product already. Pathetic is a bit of a over statement, don't ya think? They could have easily only changed the color and called in a 2019. Appreciate the innovation they working on because they could certainty sit on their ass and change nothing, the boats still sell them selves.

I appreciate the effort but really doesn't look like it would be as effective as the JBP LTs and now unfortunately, if you buy a '19 model, you'd have to find a way to retrofit a old style nozzle to the pump in order to still use the LTs. I know spoken like a true LT fan boy (love those things). Granted I haven't seen these new nozzles in action and hopefully we'll be pleasantly surprised by their effectiveness.

 

[Chillypilot]

No I stand by my statement. The nozzle improvement is fine but I'd rather have a tower thats easier to raise and lower, an option for a head, hidden ballast, new hull design specific for water sports.

 

[MidnightRider]

No I stand by my statement. The nozzle improvement is fine but I'd rather have a tower thats easier to raise and lower, an option for a head, hidden ballast, new hull design specific for water sports.

Yeah I get it. But kinda sounds like what you want is a real wake boat like a Malibu or such. IMO Yamaha sits right in the niche between runabouts and wake boats. Both in price point and in range of use and one of the reasons they do so well. If Yamaha was to create full wake boat it would likely push the price point and usage range so close to a wake boat that most of us would just buy a wake boat instead. At least that is where I'd end up. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But everyone has their own perspective so I get what you are saying.

 

[SamCF]

If Yamaha builds it, people will buy it. 27' twin SVHO with hard top and surf package priced at $85-95k... yea it would sell. I would probably be a buyer. Jet power just offers so many things that I don't think I can give up.

 

[Troch1]

If Yamaha builds it, people will buy it. 27' twin SVHO with hard top and surf package priced at $85-95k... yea it would sell. I would probably be a buyer. Jet power just offers so many things that I don't think I can give up.

The ‘19 242x is just under 80k with the price increase. A 27 with twin supercharged engines would easily top $100k. A lot fewer buyers at that price point. Not saying it won’t happen, but companies market to their tried and true base.

 

[Bluewater272]

I appreciate the effort but really doesn't look like it would be as effective as the JBP LTs and now unfortunately, if you buy a '19 model, you'd have to find a way to retrofit a old style nozzle to the pump in order to still use the LTs. I know spoken like a true LT fan boy (love those things). Granted I haven't seen these new nozzles in action and hopefully we'll be pleasantly surprised by their effectiveness.

Probably not as effective as LTs, sure. I love mine. But if what this offers is maybe, half as good as LTs? I'm not sure I would have been persuaded to buy them.

 

[Neutron]

If Yamaha builds it, people will buy it. 27' twin SVHO with hard top and surf package priced at $85-95k... yea it would sell. I would probably be a buyer. Jet power just offers so many things that I don't think I can give up.

It would need 75 to 100 gallon tank.
27 foot hardtop, 5500 to 6000lbs full fuel load. Even with twin SVHOs doubt it would do 40mph and if it could move fast it will empty 100 gallons in less than 4 hours if you run it hard

 

[haknslash]

I think it would do over 40 I just think it's going to be like when I had my SeaDoo XP 800. You could literally watch the gas gauge drop if you held the fun lever long . 75-100 gallon tank at a MINIMUM would be required unless you plan to just park it all day at which point just get a 27' pontoon lol.

 

[swatski]

It would need 75 to 100 gallon tank.
27 foot hardtop, 5500 to 6000lbs full fuel load. Even with twin SVHOs doubt it would do 40mph and if it could move fast it will empty 100 gallons in less than 4 hours if you run it hard

Bingo!
And the price will be upwards from 100k, no doubt.
No way I would be buying that.

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[PJ73]

Yeah I get it. But kinda sounds like what you want is a real wake boat like a Malibu or such. IMO Yamaha sits right in the niche between runabouts and wake boats. Both in price point and in range of use and one of the reasons they do so well. If Yamaha was to create full wake boat it would likely push the price point and usage range so close to a wake boat that most of us would just buy a wake boat instead. At least that is where I'd end up. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But everyone has their own perspective so I get what you are saying.

You have a point. When I started looking at new boats this year, I couldn't decide if I should just stay with a normal I/O 21 ft bowrider (Monterey, Sea Ray, Regal...) or go to wake. I looked at the Yamahas, talked to a couple people who own jet boats and for me, it was the best of both worlds. I get a solid 21 ft, no prop (wife always worried about that with the kids) and it gives you a taste of some good water sports for a reasonable price, it can do what normal I/Os cant but just a bit of what a wake boat can do. Just my opinion.

 

[robert843]

Bingo!
And the price will be upwards from 100k, no doubt.
No way I would be buying that.

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I was only told a rough price estimate and it was in that 100k range I had the same thought no way. If I spend 100k on a boat the fit and finish would need to be significantly higher then anything I have seen Yamaha throw out.

 

[IvanS]

So....finally The Day. Cant wait to see what Yamaha is bringing this year.

 

[ripler]

So....finally The Day. Cant wait to see what Yamaha is bringing this year.

One guarantee, a price increase across the line.