Stellantis ICE vehicles in CARB states only by ordering

[TimW451]

This will be interesting. Are RAM “mild hybrids” ICE only? I noticed Jeep dealers in DE have lots of 4xe Wranglers and dwindling supplies of others.

Stellantis Has Stopped Shipping Gas-Only Cars To 14 US States — The Drive

If a customer in a CARB state wants a new gasoline-only car from Stellantis, they must special order it.

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Add: Jeep has an extra $4k rebate on 4xe Wranglers in MD/DE (and I assume in all CARB states) to make them cost less than ICE models

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

CA yields way too much power on that front, and shame on the other states that follow them.

CARB is not inhabited by elected officials, but elected officials pick who they want on the carb board, and therefore make their rules based on the whims and political desires of the politicians. Carb can only make “rules” not laws, further their metrics are not reviewed, nor as when has been clearly demonstrated in the past, when their “science” that was used to make rules was clearly flawed as well as the single person doing the study was found to have lied about their degrees, as in all of them, did carb retract their rule and re do the study. Carb simply stated they were happy with the results, mainly because there was a draconian reduction in emissions that came out of the ”study”, once again, facts don’t matter. And in ca, these politicians take these flawed studies and make laws, allegedly based in “science”. Said laws, for instance laws regarding landscaping one’s home only apply to home owners but not commercial landscapers, just one of many such ridiculous laws.

All of this nonsense will come to an abrupt stop at one point, that point will be when these rule / law makers, in ca and other states that follow carb feel the pain they have inflicted on others.

Here I’d say the majority of trucks are rams, next would be gm followed by ford, however I have noticed a huge increase in fords here, so much so I’d definitely say based on newer vehicles fords have surpassed both gm and rams.

 

[BlkGS]

How they haven't sued CA to force them to apply the calculation equally among all the automakers is beyond me. Automakers should just stop sending any vehicles to those states, and only let people in those states custom order them.

 

[adrianp89]

This will be interesting. Are RAM “mild hybrids” ICE only? I noticed Jeep dealers in DE have lots of 4xe Wranglers and dwindling supplies of others.

Stellantis Has Stopped Shipping Gas-Only Cars To 14 US States — The Drive

If a customer in a CARB state wants a new gasoline-only car from Stellantis, they must special order it.

apple.news

Add: Jeep has an extra $4k rebate on 4xe Wranglers in MD/DE (and I assume in all CARB states) to make them cost less than ICE models

I would assume they consider the 48v Ram mild hybrid as not being ICE only. Ram is their bread and butter.

 

[BlkGS]

I would assume they consider the 48v Ram mild hybrid as not being ICE only. Ram is their bread and butter.

The article does state that they're shipping the etorques to CA. Wonder what that means for the 2024 models, those were supposedly going to be hurricane only with no existing etorque hurricane motors.