Help me Decide

[Geiger41]

So I have a chance to get a 2023 195s with a tower leftover never used for 40K. 2 year warranty included.

Do I get that or a 2025 AR190. Similar price...

Pros, Cons, thoughts

 

[Neutron]

So I have a chance to get a 2023 195s with a tower leftover never used for 40K. 2 year warranty included.

Do I get that or a 2025 AR190. Similar price...

Pros, Cons, thoughts

Dont buy the ar190, you will wish it was the 195. Power difference is key. The 195 has better fit/finish. Better resale,
The 190 is underpowered in comparison to the 195. Same price its a no brainer

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

What are you going to use the boat for?
Where are you going to use it?
How often are you going to use it?
How many people are going to go out on the boat?

The 195S has 250 hp and requires 91 octane ️. Not all boating areas have 91 octane on the water, if that’s not a problem where you boat then that point is moot.
The AR 190 has 200 hp and requires 87 octane fuel.

@Neutron makes some good points about the fit & finish and about the power. The AR 190 has a power to weight ratio of 13.37:1, and 195S has a power to weight ratio of 10.96:1. So if the go fast thing is super important then the SC 195S is for you.

Here’s a 2020 test of the 195S, pretty much the same boat performance wise as the 2023 model.

https://boattest.com/boats/yamaha/195s-2020

The most recent test boat test has of the 190 is from 2019 with the normally aspirated 1.8

https://boattest.com/boats/yamaha/ar190-2019

Looks like the difference in top speed is 5 mph, 43 vs. 48. The best cruise mpg is 4.5 on the 190, with the 1.8 not the 1.9 the non CA 2025 has, the 195S has a best cruise of 3 mpg, so if you’re going to be running the boat a lot, fuel consumption could be a factor.

Speaking of the California model 1.9Lengine, and the Non California 1.9L engine, there is a post linked below about a person in CA that has a 2024 or 2025 190 with the new 1.9L engine that was unhappy about power, turns out the CA 1.9 model has less horsepower, 154HP / 115 KW, due to emissions which is the four star rating, than the non CA 1.9 which has 200 HP or 149KW. So have a look at the engine and there will be a label on the engine that shows the power output in KW, you’re looking for that 149KW number.

Here’s the post

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Post in thread 'Ar 190 4 star engine lower rev limiter ?'

Mar 29, 2025

I hope you’re able to solve your 7100 rpm issue with a RIVA tune, what did Jesus tell you?

When you say what ever elevation you’re at it hits 7100 rpm, exactly what elevation are you at and what was the temperature?
Have you checked your air filter for oil fouling and or your oil level for proper fill?
Installed a new set of properly append spark plugs?
Are you running 87 octane fuel?
Have you asked your dealer about this?
What was your speed with varying amounts of load including fuel level, cargo and passengers?

115 KW works to roughly 154 hp, the new 1.9L engine is advertised at...

• Jdake414

 

[Geiger41]

Great info so far !! Appreciate it all

 

[steelhorse454]

So I have a chance to get a 2023 195s with a tower leftover never used for 40K. 2 year warranty included.

Do I get that or a 2025 AR190. Similar price...

Pros, Cons, thoughts

I have a 2023 AR195 and love it. Agree with Neutron...I wanted the Supercharger being the Gear Head that I am..
$40K for a 2 year old boat is a little high but not much.

 

[steelhorse454]

I have a 2023 AR195 and love it. Agree with Neutron...I wanted the Supercharger being the Gear Head that I am..
$40K for a 2 year old boat is a little high but not much.

Actually, the 195S is a slight upgrade from mine...so, that price of $40K seems right.

 

[biffdotorg]

I think that's the biggest point being missed so far. The 195s not only has the power advantage, but the "s" package gives these boats so many comfort features that have been overshadowed by the motor. Upgraded features all the way around from the base AR190/AR195 models. After owning a 242LS over the base AR240 model, I can appreciate all the features that the LS brings to the table. Yamaha nailed it by offering the "s" models. Check out the differences, and I think they will sell you on the older boat over a new boat without them.

Best of luck, there are no wrong decisions, just better decisions!