Yamaha surf wake wedge reveal!!! Warning pic heavy

[ACRDSPORT14]

The would be for the 24 ft boats.....you are not waiting on one for the 190's are you?

No, i wanted to know what kind of surf board

 

[jcyamaharider]

In the video there are 2 boards being used, one is an inland surfer squirt, and then I am on a shred stixx truckster.

 

[ACRDSPORT14]

In the video there are 2 boards being used, one is an inland surfer squirt, and then I am on a shred stixx truckster.

Thanks, I'm just a beginner wakesurfer, but I got up the second time and every time after using a friends board this past weekend. I'm not sure what he had. It was my friends cousin's - cousin's board......lol you get the drift. Anywho, been looking at the liquid force fish board to use for awhile. It seems like a good board to go ropeless on the 190 w/ 750# ballast on board because of it's make up.

 

[jcyamaharider]

Thanks, I'm just a beginner wakesurfer, but I got up the second time and every time after using a friends board this past weekend. I'm not sure what he had. It was my friends cousin's - cousin's board......lol you get the drift. Anywho, been looking at the liquid force fish board to use for awhile. It seems like a good board to go ropeless on the 190 w/ 750# ballast on board because of it's make up.

Yep, I got to ride one this weekend...very easy board to go ropeless on and feel in control.

 

[ACRDSPORT14]

Yep, I got to ride one this weekend...very easy board to go ropeless on and feel in control.

thanks for your feedback

 

[woodard1983]

that's the board that I bought, got it w/rope shipped for around $200....I was able to go ropeless second try w/approx. the same weight you have in my ar230

 

[jcyamaharider]

I am anxious today to hear results!!!!! @Dave P

 

[ar240owner]

I am anxious today to hear results!!!!! @Dave P

X2

 

[Dave P]

Well, I was able to take the boat out today with the new wedge. Before I went out i needed to install the large aluminum piece to the existing ladder support. That took all of about 5 minutes. Most of that was just trying to find the right tools for the job in my messy garage. .

Once out on the water i decided to install the wedge on the lake instaid of the prep area at the launch. Installing in the water was not totally difficult but I did have the feeling that was going to drop a pin or the aluminum cube thing in the water at any moment. Lanyards are a must for these parts. I'm pretty handy so I will drill some small holes and create some lanyards from thin cable and aluminum ferrels.

Once I had the wedge installed it was time to test it out.

First i tested the wedge with no ballast; just the hull as it sits in the water. The wave was as predicted, not good. I moved to the next phase of testing.

I filled the stock ballast in the 212x. (600lbs on each side under both seats. This time the wave was better but still not what I was looking for. I moved to the third stage.

I added a 350lb bag under the port passenger seat to start the list to port. This helped but still the wave was not what I would call Malibu wake setter good. Not really even close.

Next i added another 350 lb bag on the swim platform. I used some ropes to keep it from falling off. Now after this the wave really started to take shape. It was tall and smooth. The wedge was doing its job. Cleaning up the wave. Nice smooth crest with a curl at the break.

I notice the bow was really high while under way so i filled the front floor storage locker with water to legenthen out the wave. This was finally the wave I was looking for. It truly was in the same league as the Malabu wake setter. Just for the record here is the ballast i used.

Under main cabin seats 600lbs on each side. Total= 1200lbs.
Under the port passenger seat, one 350lb bag just in front of the stock ballast bag along side of the batteries.
One 350lb bag on the swim platform.
Front floor storage locker filled with water. Not sure how much it weighs but it's safe to say about 200lbs. So, I had a total of 2100lbs of ballast.

I could have used a little bit more in the bow to bring it down and lengthen out the wave. However, it would be easy to dial-in the wave with some more people on board.

Just to be sure the wedge was actually doing its job, I took it off. With the ballast still set up, the wave went back to its normal crappy self. Washed out, lots of jet spray. The wave was not clean and pretty as it was with the wedge. Was it surfable? Yes, but not ideal.

So is it worth $800 plus shipping? It definitely makes a difference in the quality of the wave. Ballast is certainly required to have a good surfable wave. The ability to drive in a straight line cannot be understated. With this wedge there is no more need to turn in a gentle ark. You can create a surf quality wave by driving in a straight line. Only purpose built wakeboard/wake surf boats are able to do this. That in itself makes this product worth the money. The wave it produces is truly better than anything Yamaha boat owners can create with ballast alone. I was not able to actually surf today as I was by myself. I will give it a proper surf test this weekend and report back with my findings.

I have videos of the waves in different phases. I will work on getting them uploaded to youtube for viewing. Stay tuned.

 

[jcyamaharider]

@Dave P I wonder if you could not fill the starboard bag on the factory system? I think that bag is counteracting what you are trying to do and actually taking away a little bit from the wave. Just something to test out..... if it is possible....I do not know how the factory ballast is setup on those boats.

 

[dustinjean]

i would put a shutoff valve inline of the starboard bag to keep it from filling as i believe they work off of a single pump

 

[sysinu]

Or use this: http://www.wakemakers.com/fly-high-distribution-flow-manifold.html

 

[Yamaha242lsdallas]

Well, I was able to take the boat out today with the new wedge. Before I went out i needed to install the large aluminum piece to the existing ladder support. That took all of about 5 minutes. Most of that was just trying to find the right tools for the job in my messy garage. .

Once out on the water i decided to install the wedge on the lake instaid of the prep area at the launch. Installing in the water was not totally difficult but I did have the feeling that was going to drop a pin or the aluminum cube thing in the water at any moment. Lanyards are a must for these parts. I'm pretty handy so I will drill some small holes and create some lanyards from thin cable and aluminum ferrels.

Once I had the wedge installed it was time to test it out.

First i tested the wedge with no ballast; just the hull as it sits in the water. The wave was as predicted, not good. I moved to the next phase of testing.

Sounds great!! Awesome write-up!

For all of us salivating over the thought of getting one can you upload some pics of the install? I know we have seen the prototype..but finished product on your boat would be cool too!

Would be great is one of the pics were with it attached to the ladder, just still a little concerned about the possibility of the force of the wedge bending the ladder bracket. And makes me wonder if there is a way to bridge the upper and lower part of the bracket thus giving it more strength. Not sure what type of angle you have the wedge set at too..would it interfere with the bracket mounted to the ladder if it was modded to be bigger?

Maybe I'm just worrying about nothing, just seems like if the "flap" is down far enough to cover the top part of the jet water coming out there would be a lot of force on it.

Anyway pics would be cool!! Just wish my boat did not have an engine blown

 

[davel501]

Sounds great!! Awesome write-up!

For all of us salivating over the thought of getting one can you upload some pics of the install? I know we have seen the prototype..but finished product on your boat would be cool too!

Would be great is one of the pics were with it attached to the ladder, just still a little concerned about the possibility of the force of the wedge bending the ladder bracket. And makes me wonder if there is a way to bridge the upper and lower part of the bracket thus giving it more strength. Not sure what type of angle you have the wedge set at too..would it interfere with the bracket mounted to the ladder if it was modded to be bigger?

Maybe I'm just worrying about nothing, just seems like if the "flap" is down far enough to cover the top part of the jet water coming out there would be a lot of force on it.

Anyway pics would be cool!! Just wish my boat did not have an engine blown

Blown engine?

 

[Yamaha242lsdallas]

Blown engine?

Sorry, not trying to hijack this thread:

https://jetboaters.net/threads/engine-just-quit.3253/

 

[octavio3311]

Ok. I'm not the kind of guy that would install this in the lake, I'd much rather get it ready in my driveway.
So my question is - how does the boat handle/maneuver with this wedge on. Like from the ramp, around the docks and then out to your riding spot.

 

[ar240owner]

With it in the up position it drives normal , I'm sure @rocknracing , will answer we installed his at the ramp and had it on all day

 

[jcyamaharider]

lol, I answered at the same time as Mark.

 

[Dave P]

@Dave P I wonder if you could not fill the starboard bag on the factory system? I think that bag is counteracting what you are trying to do and actually taking away a little bit from the wave. Just something to test out..... if it is possible....I do not know how the factory ballast is setup on those boats.

I've tried that before and it feels like the starboard engine is too far out of the water. Just worried that I may damage something. Besides, don't we want the back to dig in for a better wave?

 

[rocknracing]

Ok. I'm not the kind of guy that would install this in the lake, I'd much rather get it ready in my driveway.
So my question is - how does the boat handle/maneuver with this wedge on. Like from the ramp, around the docks and then out to your riding spot.

With it in the up position it drives normal , I'm sure @rocknracing , will answer we installed his at the ramp and had it on all day

You don't even know it back there. We drove with it in the up position for about 15-20 min boat ride to our riding spot and then back to the dock. Even at no wake speed and around the dock it didn't effect anything. In fact I think at cursing speed with it in the up position it wasn't even in the water. @jcyamaharider would be able to tell you as I think he looked back at it while underway. I plan on putting mine on at the ramp and then adjusting it once I get out to our spot and not worry about trying to put it on in the water and risk dropping something. When we have the boat at the slip I will just leave it on the boat since it won't interfere with the the lift!