Yamaha 27'?

[swatski]

Beam will be 8ft 6in

So - no towing restrictions, correct? I also don't anticipate the weight to be a deal breaker. I might consider this for around 80k, 90-100k is a bit steep but it really depends on what they actually do to equip the boat. For example, with my AR240 I planned on 20k in mods, and it would have worked beautifully if not for a couple unforeseen issues such as the f@cking tower, but I digress. If this new model is logically appointed, it could be great.

Does anyone know if it will be a mono-trim offering or will it follow the usual 3-4 trim lineup?

Looking forward to see what they come up with. If they can get their $itt together and start making boats like they used to in the late 2000s (when they were passionate about it!) I would definitely consider this new model. I guess we will find out, the first few boat shows.
(I think I know exactly what to look at to get an idea of the quality of workmanship and materials)

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[BlkGS]

I hope they sell very well so I can buy one in several years for less than half that! Lol.

 

[Neutron]

Yamaha to announce a 27ft. Supercharged Twin Engine - March 2019. Have a friend who works for Factory Yamaha. Should be killer.

Where is this coming from. What proof?
This has been a speculation for two years now.

 

[Speedling]

A beam over 8'6" would be more stable of course, but I don't think even a 27' Yamaha is meant for sitting around or going slow.
On plane, the boat is a different animal altogether.
Lots and lots of manufacturers have been making boats even longer with even narrower beams.
The old Scarab 34' super sport had a beam of 8'4" so even narrower than my 21' Yamaha!
Moving forward on plane is the key.
If Yamaha makes it only open bow/deck boat style, that would be smart. As much as I would love a small cuddy in there. I don't know how the weight distribution is, but a larger cabin cruiser is much bigger and heavier and would need that extra beam width.
So yeah, I could see this in SX/SR, AR, and Open (center console) models easily enough, but this big of a boat would be the best as a basic cruiser, so I would either want the AR (the tower is far more useful for things other than tow sports than I had anticipated or the center console.
In any case, I'm excited to see this thing!

 

[BlkGS]

If this happens, I hope superchargers arent mandatory. I picked a yamaha boat because they were NA...

 

[seanmclean]

Whelp, I'm too poor to feed a pair of supercharged motors, lol.

 

[bronze_10]

Whelp, I'm too poor to feed a pair of supercharged motors, lol.

Or buy one!

 

[J-RAD]

Word on the street is it will have a ridged hard top as opposed to a canvas bimini.

 

[robert843]

Where is this coming from. What proof?
This has been a speculation for two years now.

If I still had the pics I would post them under a fake account now that someone else has started this lol but the pics I may have had died with a phone that decided to take a swim in the drink this year. I may reach back out to my original source but I won't be the first to post pics as I was sworn to not do so. @J-RAD Yes a hard top versus a Bimini soft top makes sense at least from what I was told or scene.

 

[NewBoater]

The low Maintenance costs that we love with Yamaha jet boats would be out the window with supercharged engines no? And they wouldnt last as long? What does yearly cost go up? And life expectancy of those engines?

 

[haknslash]

The low Maintenance costs that we love with Yamaha jet boats would be out the window with supercharged engines no? And they wouldnt last as long? What does yearly cost go up? And life expectancy of those engines?

No more or less than a NA engine. I don't do any different maintenance regiment than you do on your boat. Why do people see Supercharger and instantly think it's a friggin time bomb on here? This isn't some older Rotax engine with a ceramic supercharger washer that needs to be replaced every 100 hours. I think we can put the bed the SC'd Yamaha boats being more likely to break the timing chain than a NA boat when you look at the boats on here that were affected. IIRC as it stands now more NA boats seemed to be affected than SC boats if you judge by the timing chain thread. I think the reason SC boats got a bad name was because of the SC waverunners were breaking timing chains but IMO that's only because I bet there are far more SC wave runners flying through the air than there are docile recreational (non-sport/aggressive) wave runners putting around the lakes and oceans. Installing a blowoff valve would help lengthen the supercharger clutch but for boats we simply aren't off/on/off throttle like wave runners are so the clutch wear is nowhere near the same. Either way a BOV helps if that's a concern for you.

Now fuel consumption on the other hand....;yea that's gonna be fun watching the gauge drop FAST if run WOT for long periods lol. It better have a 100 gallon tank minimum or range on that big boat is going to be laughable. Then again 27' allows for plenty of room to carry extra fuel on the floor.

 

[Beachbummer]

I'll answer your first question, from my point of view....

Supercharger is an additional moving piece that spins pretty fast. Anything turbo or SC is based on additional moving parts, which alone when all else is equal is, by design, less reliable, as there are more moving parts. So, not so much a self destructing grenade as just more likely to experience issues.

 

[haknslash]

Using that scenario that means twin engine boats are twice as likely to fail/less reliable since they have twice as many moving parts as a single engine boat.

I mean I get what you're saying as I come from a modded turbo car in a previous lifetime, but honestly I don't expect many Yamaha boats to fail from supercharger clutch. Besides most jet boat owners don't keep these boats for hundreds of hours before selling them and moving off to another direction or new boat entirely. Can't recall used 2014 192's on the market passed through a handful of owners and likely a couple hundred hours logged on them with broken superchargers. Now on a wave runner different entirely as those things are often abused, rode hard as hell, with LOTS of on/off throttle or air time hitting bouncing off the rev limiter then water which is what wears the SC clutch over time. I just don't see boat owners using their boats in that manner thus far less wear and tear in general.

None of this matters though. Yamaha is in the HP race with Scarab. The boat will come with twin SC engines and people will either accept that and buy it or not. Time will tell. Personally I think you'll only see these boats in large open lakes where there is no size limit or on the coasts and gulf of mexico, leaving the 27' market to be somewhat niche depending on where you live. These boat wouldn't be legal to use in most of the lakes I visit simply due to their size and/or likely top speed exceeding 60 mph.

 

[NewBoater]

This will definitely be a boat we might consider in the future. We have an SX210 now and saw the 242 Limited SE Series with solar panels as the next boat down the road but this has me thinking more or the 27 with supercharged engines in the future. Wonder if there will be bright/loud color choices like they have now or just a plain Jane white one. Any guesses as to what the weight of the boat will be for those of us with lifts.

 

[NewBoater]

I agree that most people are much harder on Jetski’s than jet boats with going wide-open throttle on the superchargers most of their trips. That’s not how most of us use our boats. Wondering if it will be a sportsy looking boat like 242x and such or more like a center console fishing boat design wise.

 

[Wisefam22]

How to convince my wife I need to upgrade already... I guess I'll wait until all 3 kids are teens and use "the boat it to small" line.

 

[PEARCE]

I think it's aimed at the big day boat market that most people would put in a slip with a lift because of the over wide beam and being too heavy for most to be able to tow. If it indeed does have a trailerable friendly 8.5' beam then that opens up another nitch in the market. It's still gonna be in the 8-10k pound range if it's built right which will be in the 3/4 ton truck range to be handled efficiently. I would expect it to have a more usable head compartment with possibly a pump out head. I would also expect a built in electric grill and maybe a 12v fridge. It's still a bargain of it's in the 80-100k range if it'll cruise comfortably in the 40-60mph range and not suck through the fuel too bad. Just my $0.2!

 

[zipper]

The guy that owns the marina where we slip the Yamaha, also owns the local SeaRay dealership. There are a lot of 27' SeaRay SDX 270's that come and go from there on trailers. And yes, a higher rated tow 3/4+ ton truck is usually pulling them around, with a dry weight of 5659#.

 

[Betik]

The guy that owns the marina where we slip the Yamaha, also owns the local SeaRay dealership. There are a lot of 27' SeaRays that come and go from there on trailers. And yes, a higher rated tow 3/4+ ton truck is usually pulling them around.

If I have to buy another truck for another boat, I am 100% certain my wife will kill me.

 

[Wisefam22]

If I have to buy another truck for another boat, I am 100% certain my wife will kill me.

Should have bought your second truck first...