Yamaha 27'?

[vanmurray]

This is my favorite boat out right now in the outboard model. Problem is sure Yamaha could come out with something to try and compete with this but honestly based on Yamaha's current pricing they would likely be priced close to 90-100K for this boat which would put them fairly close to the price point of the Sea Ray but the quality of that Sea Ray is so far above and beyond what the Yamaha boats are that even if they were 10 grand less then the Sea Ray I don't think they could compete with it. The real problem when you start getting into that 100K price range shoppers who are looking in that price range are not as concerned about saving a few grand on a cheaper boat versus making sure the quality level is exceptional and that the boat has all the unique features they want. With Yamaha's current quality specs on the the hull and finishes also with their more cookie cutter approach of no special orders or features I just don't think they would be competitive in this market.

I agree and I actually looked at these before getting 242. I really liked the 290 twin outboard with joystick controls since we’re dreaming.

http://www.searay.com/page.aspx/pageid/160944/pmid/366052/SDX-290-OB.aspx

 

[robert843]

I agree and I actually looked at these before getting 242. I really liked the 290 twin outboard with joystick controls since we’re dreaming.

http://www.searay.com/page.aspx/pageid/160944/pmid/366052/SDX-290-OB.aspx

I agree that 290 is a beast it is huge. We had a real long talk on the 270 at a boat show it came real close to us getting the 270 over the Yamaha but the price difference was almost double and just wasn't sure I would get double the enjoyment out of it. The original plan was get another Yamaha now which we did and then in 2-3 years upgrade to a used 270SD OB when the used pricing started to fall into the 50k range so we may still grab one in a year or two.

 

[Speedling]

Geez overreact much? All I said was it better have a bigger fuel tank (than what comes in a 242). What's wrong with that? Hell I'd love to have a 45 or 50 gallon tank in my 192! I don't need it 95% of the time but there are times I'd like to have greater range on the larger lakes or the Gulf without monitoring the fuel gauge throughout the day. Did not imply I wasn't a fan of twin SVHO. In fact if you ever search my older posts I'm sure you'll see me say I'd love to see a twin SVHO .....mainly for shits n giggles to compete with Scarab but also to bring out a true "SuperSport" model. A 27' though I just see no point because it will be more expensive than I think most people would pay for it against stiffer competition but YMMV.

Edit - here's proof I have love for twin SVHO lol Will Yamaha ever build another SS?

No dircted at you specifically but to the mindset in general. I think you are 100% correct that a bigger boat needs a bigger tank.
I have always believed that two vehicles of same weight will get the same mpg even if one makes more power. Example, my wife's 5.4 expedition is currently reading 15.6 mpg not towing but full of 6 kids back and forth to school.
A guy at work with new ecoboost truck that i know drives like a grandma and 90% of the time solo and no gear is at an average of 14.7 even though he has the quad cab 6.5 bed.
So i feel with both being 4x4 etc. They are moving similar mass and have similar mpg. Same with boats although a more efficient hull is a huge difference more than the motors.
It takes the same amount of energy to accelerate two same mass to same speed. Supercharged just means you have more available.

 

[MattFX4]

Not necessarily an upside for jets. Depends on the use if you want/need big draft or not. For an ocean going vessel or big waters you want something below the water surface. To help slice through water, help to hold your heading or give you stability when you turn. In a lightweight jet you can get tossed around, spun around, beat up by waves in rough waters. If that boat had outboards rather than an outdrive the draft wouldn't be near as much and you can always get the outboard high if in skinnier waters. Harder to do with a stern drive.

When/if I go to the dark side of wake boats the draft is something I will have to get used to and one of the things I fear the most. But the trade off for water fun will make it worth it I think.

I hope you don't hit one of these in a wake boat running 40 mph like I did last weekend. I squared up this log dead center and it scared the hell out of me. I checked the boat out and didn't see any damage. I think I skimmed right over it since I was plane.

 

[haknslash]

I hope you don't hit one of these in a wake boat running 40 mph like I did last weekend. I squared up this log dead center and it scared the hell out of me. I checked the boat out and didn't see any damage. I think I skimmed right over it since I was plane.

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I hooe I don't hit one either. I've had some close calls myself. Helped a Wake boat last year after they hit a log at Wake boarding speeds. https://jetboaters.net/threads/so-i-saw-a-fellow-boater-in-distress-today.13004/#post-226398

 

[MattFX4]

I hooe I don't hit one either. I've had some close calls myself. Helped a Wake boat last year after they hit a log at Wake boarding speeds. https://jetboaters.net/threads/so-i-saw-a-fellow-boater-in-distress-today.13004/#post-226398

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Ouch. Yep a lot of stuff hanging down low on tow boats. Have to be careful

 

[haknslash]

Hitting the same would likely rip off my rudder and do some damage as well but yes it can be much worse for prop boats. Last year someone on here hit a log or something with their 2015+ and it did a horrible number on the keel front to back practically removing it entirely! Gotta be careful out there!! Last time I was out I grazed right by a big log like the one in your pic. I probably missed it by less than a foot off my port side. It would have certainly ripped a new one not only in my boat but my wallet

 

[Matt Phillips]

My guess is if Yamaha goes to a 27 or larger size, then they will likely go the outboard route. My thought process is that boats in that size are likely goin to be used in bigger water and maybe even stored in the water...and Yamaha would have to address the basic need for people to store their boats long-term in salt water. Going to an outboard would be the cheapest form an R&D perspective to overcome this drawback.

 

[Speedling]

My guess is if Yamaha goes to a 27 or larger size, then they will likely go the outboard route. My thought process is that boats in that size are likely goin to be used in bigger water and maybe even stored in the water...and Yamaha would have to address the basic need for people to store their boats long-term in salt water. Going to an outboard would be the cheapest form an R&D perspective to overcome this drawback.

I agree with you but then why even call it a Yamaha when you can buy plenty of other boats with yamaha outboards?

 

[the MfM]

Hurricane deck boat. ~27’ . They also make an outboard version.

Seems like a jet version would work, no?

 

[fraserjr]

Hurricane deck boat. ~27’ . They also make an outboard version.

Seems like a jet version would work, no?
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This is exactly why I WANT Yamaha to make a larger boat. If you look at the seating on the Hurricane that is 27' it actually has same seating room as the 24' Yamaha (maybe 18" more in the bow). Even if they took out the wet bar/sink it seems like the same seating footprint. I think a 27' Yamaha could have the seating size of a much bigger boat if done right. Just like the 24' Yamaha's feel much roomier than similar boats of the same size.

 

[Jgorm]

Going past 25' will mean you can't trailer it. I test drove a 26 searay with the 8' beam and it was unstable as hell. They call it the lean club or something. It seriously feel like it was going to tip over and i had to constantly adjust the tabs. You need a 10'+ beam over 25' for any closed bow / high profile boat.

 

[Jguns]

Not to start the rumor train. But Yamaha has been working on a 27' for a couple of years. Wonder if it will be announced in August at this years dealer meet. I don't know any specs or anything. Id assume you may see the supercharged motors in it, but wanted to see what you guys thought.

Yamaha to announce a 27ft. Supercharged Twin Engine - March 2019. Have a friend who works for Factory Yamaha. Should be killer.

 

[swatski]

Yamaha to announce a 27ft. Supercharged Twin Engine - March 2019. Have a friend who works for Factory Yamaha. Should be killer.

Okay, that confirms what we have been hearing. Two questions that are on many potential buyers mind: price, and fuel capacity (range)?
And - I know it's been asked and answered, it's just hard to keep it strait - are there any trailering restrictions that would apply to a 26+ft hull?

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[Troch1]

Okay, that confirms what we have been hearing. Two questions that are on many potential buyers mind: price, and fuel capacity (range)?
And - I know it's been asked and answered, it's just hard to keep it strait - are there any trailering restrictions that would apply to a 26+ft hull?

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Trailering restrictions are on width and total length and vary by state.

https://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/trailer-dimensions/

 

[the MfM]

If it’s got a 102”or less beam it’s not a problem. But at 27’ thats make a pretty skinny boat.

10’ is a phone call permit in most places.

 

[Julian]

I agree with you but then why even call it a Yamaha when you can buy plenty of other boats with yamaha outboards?

It would be a Yamaha through and through...Hull and engines. No reason they couldn't/shouldn't start selling complete outboard Yamaha boats! I like their covered outboard boats they sell in Japan!

 

[Need A Vacation]

Trailering restrictions are on width and total length and vary by state.

https://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/trailer-dimensions/

It doesn’t seem like that link for max rig or trailer lengths is up to date.

In Michigan, max total rig length is 75’. As for the max trailer length, I honestly have never seen one listed. And considering we have a travel trailer that Jayco lists as 35’8” oal (tongue to bumper), that would be 7’ over the max. And there are numerous rigs that are even longer, both bumper pulls like ours and 5rs.

Unless an ~27’ Yamaha ended up having a width greater than 102”, I can’t see there being any issues regarding the total length. A crew cab short bed (6.5’) tow vehicle would probably only be ~51-52’ oal. That’s based on a 27’ yammie being ~30’ on the trailer.

Same with the Scarab 285 if/when it is available.

 

[robert843]

Okay, that confirms what we have been hearing. Two questions that are on many potential buyers mind: price, and fuel capacity (range)?
And - I know it's been asked and answered, it's just hard to keep it strait - are there any trailering restrictions that would apply to a 26+ft hull?

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Beam will be 8ft 6in and the expected price point will be around 90-100k.

 

[Betik]

Beam will be 8ft 6in and the expected price point will be around 90-100k.