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I know some of you enjoy cigars - share!

I would like to send a huge "Thank You!" to @drewkaree for introducing me to www.cigarpage.com. I received my 3rd order from them a week or so back and again they did not disappoint! I ordered the Rocky Patel Poundtown Exclusivo 24-Cigar Medley and 20 more Nub Nuance Triple Roast 460's (these are becoming one of my favorite cigars) for the very good price of just $3.41 per stick.

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Not sure how I fit all these into my humidors, but magically I did. I have been slowly trying them out, and the ones that I have tried I have enjoyed them immensely. So now I'm smoking a cigar every night or two out on the front porch with the dog for company as referenced in a picture a few posts back.. We've been going out so much, that she now stands by the front door every night waiting for me to head out for our evening ritual.

Hope everyone has a great weekend on the water enjoying a cigar or 6!!!
 
Sorry for not being on lately, been a rough couple weeks... They found another mass behind my wife's right ear, shes been in treatment for the colon cancer and things were looking up. However she has been complaining of pain in her neck and hearing loss in her right ear. We went and got her looked at, they just did a biopsy and took some xrays. Haven't really been out on the boat or smoking much lately, but hope we get some good news soon and we can start to move forward again. Sorry @CigarJeff68 I did not forget about you, I have been in a funk with all this going on and just havent been able to get your things out. I will, I promise....
 
Sorry for not being on lately, been a rough couple weeks... They found another mass behind my wife's right ear, shes been in treatment for the colon cancer and things were looking up. However she has been complaining of pain in her neck and hearing loss in her right ear. We went and got her looked at, they just did a biopsy and took some xrays. Haven't really been out on the boat or smoking much lately, but hope we get some good news soon and we can start to move forward again. Sorry @CigarJeff68 I did not forget about you, I have been in a funk with all this going on and just havent been able to get your things out. I will, I promise....
Do NOT feel sorry, the health & well being of your wife is way more important than sending me a couple of cigars.
You concentrate on getting your wife through this, and then we celebrate with a cigar!
Send prayers your way!!
 
I've been negligent in posting up my recent smokes, but I've finally been able to get some spare time to enjoy them, and at least I got the pics!

@CigarJeff68 got me these first 2, and I think he's enjoyed them both - nice picks for both (and I gotta get some of these new smokes into your hands!)

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A perennial fave of mine, the Perdomo Lot 23, and then their 20th Anniversary that is just an absolute gorgeous smoke, if only I could swing a box purchase, the 20th is a must try, IMO

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The Oscar (Vallardes?) 2012 barber pole again, only better humidity on this one, and it's worth the experience to try a barber pole. The Asylum Ogre is better, to me, but not as easy to obtain, so this is a nice change of pace.

Tonight, I had a first for me - a bad LFD. Nothing wrong with the smoke itself, but this robusto size was a complete PITA to keep lit, and while talking with @FSH 210 Sport I found myself continually having to babysit the thing, relight, and just generally have it turn into a chore to smoke. Definitely enjoy the Toro or Gordo size more than this one

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Finally for today, I wholeheartedly recommend Southern Draw. The Rose Of Sharon was a knockout, and I may be on the lookout for a box of those!

I was thinking of @WiskyDan when I had the Jacob's Ladder, and Dan, if you want to try one, let me know, and I'll have one in your hands next time we meet up!

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@RNYCLV I hope your wife is doing well, and you guys have been able to get out on the water. If I could transport you guys here for some relaxation and mindless fun, I'd do it in a second, keep us posted if there's anything we can do, even if it's just to post nonsense for some brain relief!
 
@Coult45 I need you to stop by and help me with these crappy pics. I know it's not as awe inspiring as the so-so egrets, but your skills are really making me aware of how bad my Jitterbug phone is at capturing how great these cigars look in person 😄
 
I'm kind of an a-hole about tobacco use, so I stay off this thread so I'm not tempted to get up on my soapbox. Your pictures aren't terrible, but please stop using your camera flash. Find a small lamp with a red shade to bring out the color of the cigar, the wood, and the ashtray. And FFS, slide your white balance a little toward the warm side. The ash in the tray should not be the hero of your story.
 
I was thinking of @WiskyDan when I had the Jacob's Ladder, and Dan, if you want to try one, let me know, and I'll have one in your hands next time we meet up!

All you 1%’ers are too sophisticated for me but I do have experience with cigars from when I was a wee lad…..

These were my favorite……the Gold Dragon was a nice chew with a great finish…..the El Bubble was a bit too bland but a decent aftertaste……the Pink Owl was outstanding with just enough tartness and the flavor didn’t disappear after a few chews.

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As I matured I found another great chew which matched up well with my advanced palate…..

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I was thinking of @WiskyDan when I had the Jacob's Ladder, and Dan, if you want to try one, let me know, and I'll have one in your hands next time we meet up!
Is the Jacob’s Ladder good? I know absolutely nothing about cigars but decided to give them a try to pair with the bourbons and scotch that I like. It was recommended that I pair a Jacob’s Ladder with some EH Taylor, so I purchased 2 yesterday to try.
 
Is the Jacob’s Ladder good? I know absolutely nothing about cigars but decided to give them a try to pair with the bourbons and scotch that I like. It was recommended that I pair a Jacob’s Ladder with some EH Taylor, so I purchased 2 yesterday to try.

If you are NOT a "regular" cigar smoker, I would not smoke it on an empty stomach. There will be a decent nicotine hit that you may attribute to the bourbon, but I assure you that swimming feeling in your head will be at least partially due to the cigar. Eat something beforehand, and enjoy it without reservation or concern with your bourbon afterwards

I definitely like it. Not sure of your palate or what you will experience, or which EH Taylor you got. I've only had the small batch version of their bourbon, but if that's what you got, the Jacob's Ladder will be a similar experience. I wasn't a fan of the small batch, as it seemed to be spicier than I like in a bourbon due to the rye, but I can definitely tell it's a tasty drink for those who do like that in their bourbon. If you got a different version of their bourbon, see if someone else has done a review to see what you're in for, and compare it to the small batch reviews for an idea of whether it will be a similar experience

The cigar has flashes of spiciness, but it isn't a spicy bomb, so I really enjoyed it. If it didn't have ANY spice (mainly black pepper), I would quickly buy a box, as I think it's a great smoke even with the hints of pepper - VERY similar to the bourbon.

It's a personal experience, but I think you'll like it. If not, send me some of the EH Taylor and I'll send you a smoke to pair with it 😄
 
I've gotta replace the yellow light on my porch to be able to get better pics, but I'm not willing to endure the onslaught of bugs that would result from a white bulb, so I'll have to either give up on better pics, or start donating blood via mosquito attack for my horrible attempts at photography.

Had an AJ Fernandez New World today during some great conversation time with @FSH 210 Sport AJ produces some great smokes, and I haven't come across anything from him yet, that wasn't a good experience. Not blowing my socks off with everything, but very consistent, and a reliable brand to purchase IMO.

This was from Cigar Page, and a great price to try it out. Would buy again, and would recommend for a nice midday smoke with friends

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If you are NOT a "regular" cigar smoker, I would not smoke it on an empty stomach. There will be a decent nicotine hit that you may attribute to the bourbon, but I assure you that swimming feeling in your head will be at least partially due to the cigar. Eat something beforehand, and enjoy it without reservation or concern with your bourbon afterwards

I definitely like it. Not sure of your palate or what you will experience, or which EH Taylor you got. I've only had the small batch version of their bourbon, but if that's what you got, the Jacob's Ladder will be a similar experience. I wasn't a fan of the small batch, as it seemed to be spicier than I like in a bourbon due to the rye, but I can definitely tell it's a tasty drink for those who do like that in their bourbon. If you got a different version of their bourbon, see if someone else has done a review to see what you're in for, and compare it to the small batch reviews for an idea of whether it will be a similar experience

The cigar has flashes of spiciness, but it isn't a spicy bomb, so I really enjoyed it. If it didn't have ANY spice (mainly black pepper), I would quickly buy a box, as I think it's a great smoke even with the hints of pepper - VERY similar to the bourbon.

It's a personal experience, but I think you'll like it. If not, send me some of the EH Taylor and I'll send you a smoke to pair with it 😄

Definitely not a regular. Purchased my first cigars about 2 months ago and I’ve only smoked 4-5 trying to figure out what I like. This is the list that was made for me by some folks at my local cigar shops. Any thoughts on the pairings?

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First off I want to start this post with prayers for @RNYCLV 's wife & family. I hope all is going well!


Well I was able to get out on the deck last night and have a cigar. It's been a minute since I have been able to relax and enjoy a nice stick.
First off, the wife and I took the day off because my parents wanted to go out on our boat, as they have never been on our boat. My father is a prolific walleye fisherman in the town were I grew up, (next town over) and fishes the St. Clair river, but has never spent much time on Lake St. Clair. So we took them, along with our 2 daughters to some of our normal haunts on the lake. We then when to Brown's (one of our most favorite bars on the water) on Harsens Island for lunch. The day was perfect, my father was amazed by all the places we hang out on the weekends, and all the islands (some of which are owned by friends) that are out on the lake. Overall it was a FANTASTIC day!

Fast forward to the evening, the wife, dog & I get to relax on the deck for a few hours, swimming, having drinks and of course I get to enjoy a cigar or 2.

I started out with a Rocky Patel Fusion Toro (6.5" x 52). and I went with the 'V' cut as it seemed like the perfect size for it. It was a very nice smoke, more to the medium body with little hints of spice. I paired it with a glass of Josh Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon, and IMHO they worked well together. The cigar burned beautifully and I had no troubles with keeping it lit. I think I have finally got my humidor humidity dialed in, (knock on wood).
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The evening was beautiful, until the little vampires came out (around 8:30) and we had to retire to the house for the night. So until next time, everyone 'smoke 'em if you got 'em', and enjoy your families to the fullest!

And as always, to @drewkaree, I do enjoy seeing the pictures, and reviews, of the cigars you smoke, it gives me ideas about future purchaces.
 
Definitely not a regular. Purchased my first cigars about 2 months ago and I’ve only smoked 4-5 trying to figure out what I like. This is the list that was made for me by some folks at my local cigar shops. Any thoughts on the pairings?

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Life intervened! Of the cigars that I have smoked from that list: All the Oliva's, several Montecristo's, the Ashton VSG, the Padron (they misspelled it as "Pardon" on your list), the Southern Draw, the Upmann, Camacho, My Father, Romeo y Julieta, & the Fuente Hemingway. All others, I have no experience with, but that's a great way to see the differences that the wrapper makes on a cigar, as well as looking at some of the core fillers. As for the bourbon's, I've had the Michter's, Buffalo Trace, Basil Hayden, Eagle Rare, Blanton's, Elijah Craig, Bulleit & Woodford Reserve. I'll try to comment on those, and add possible additions for you to consider.

One thing that stands out on that list is the Montecristo - I'm guessing they didn't mention anything specific, since I have yet to have a bad Montecristo. There are multiple Montecristo's, and I find them referred to most often by the band color, even though that's woefully inadequate. For that Basil Hayden, I'd recommend the Media Noche (black band) or the Platinum (silver/gray band). The Nicaraguan (also a black band, but I can't find them often enough for me to call them the black band) would be a nice 3rd choice.

I REALLY want to try the Jefferson's Ocean, so I wish I had something to tell you about that pairing, but rest assured that the Fuente Hemingway is a GREAT smoke, so if they're recommending that, it's only fueling my desire to try it. Same issue with the Booker's, and I found the My Father to be a great smoke, although hard to source around me. I got 2 from my kid when he went on vacation and went shopping for a gift for me. BOTH of those smokes will be a bit spendy, so you may want to hold off on those to see if you're a fan of pairing a smoke with your bourbon, and if you're even willing to throw that much at a single smoke from a brick & mortar (both of those ran in the $11-14 range, from what I recall). There ARE great cigars that aren't spendy enough that you feel like it's a wallet stretcher, so keep that in mind.

Both Oliva's are great picks for those bourbons, but I would advise that you make sure the Serie G is NOT the maduro version if you're going to try that with Blanton's. The maduro version has some flavors that may detract from the Blanton's, but it may actually be a good fit for the Bulleit.

For the H Upmann, I would actually recommend swapping it out for their AJ Fernandez stick with the Basil's. I dunno if I posted a pic of that one here yet, but I'll look after I post this, and if not, I'll add a pic of what it looks like. The Ashton VSG that they recommend is definitely a great smoke, but I just find them to be a bit overpriced for anything other than an infrequent treat. It's a good recommendation, but if you've only had 4-5 smokes, and you're feeling your way around, I'd hold off for just a bit. Now, if someone were to buy you one, you jump on that offer! It's a great smoke if other folks are buying! LOL I dunno on pricing for the Padron, but in my area, the same recommendation would be my advice - it's a GREAT cigar, but give it a bit for you to get your feet under you and figure out some ideas of what you're a fan of in a cigar.

I am a fan of Nub's, and thus far, those Southern Draw's I showed above. I would recommend that Rose Of Sharon with the Eagle Rare, and the Nub Dub (it's a double maduro) would be great with the Woodford's, I think.

If I missed something, or you wanted some clarification, by all means, hit me up. As with anything flavor-related, it's all relative to your personal preferences and palate. One man's caviar could be another person's S.O.S.

There's always a desire to just dip your toes in, and test the waters. In the cigar world, I would say that would be what many find in a Connecticut wrapper cigar. Those are great to start, and if you find one you like, man, that's like a diamond in the rough! Try one, and you'll see what I mean about them - smooth, almost NEVER overpowering, and they go with just about anything. That would be a great idea to try with the Eagle Rare, IMO. If you're looking for a consistent brand, Rocky Patel is an easy to find name, and there's so many to choose from, you're bound to find something you like. My personal fave from Rocky Patel is their Vintage 2003 Cameroon. The Nub Cameroon that I like is a direct result of me trying the Rocky.

The wrapper is overwhelmingly the thing that you will find a definite preference for, but try a variety, and use that as your steppingstone to see what other brands are able to do with that same wrapper. I most definitely prefer Nicaraguan smokes, but there are so many great brands out there nowadays, that "Cuban" no longer has the same cache it used to (nor should it - I've smoke some DAWGS from there, and had some Dominican smokes that are leagues better!). There's no need to spend a lot, and often, the higher price is due to something "extra" they do, like dip it in something, or put it in a metal tube, or whatever. None of these things make a mediocre smoke better, so see if they have a less expensive offering of their "bland" sticks, and see if they're a brand you're a fan of. For example, ANYBODY can make a pizza. Does someone make the generic pepperoni pizza that knocks your socks off? Those are the things you want to pay attention to. Do they make a good solid offering...and never let someone tell you that you're smoking a "kids" cigar or something that only a chick would smoke. @WiskyDan's bubble gum cigars are hard to keep lit, but they make them for a reason - someone out there is buying them.
 
First, for @F.M. The Upmann I referenced above is the one on the far left with the blue/teal band. Should be easy to find. The Nub Dub is next to it. That Padron is NOT the one you had listed, but is an example of what I was talking about - it's great OUTSIDE of the tube too, and it was a gift to me, so I don't care how much it cost! 😁 Last one, that Cain on the right, is another Nub. Spicy, but in a way that I really like. I would recommend that with the Bulleit or the Michters, although it's been a bit since I've had the Michter's, so that may just be one to rest on just a bit. The Perdomo 20th Anniversary would be a great pairing with the Blanton's or Eagle Rare, but first, try it all on its own without the bourbon. It really would be great with any of your bourbons 😜

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For tonight, I was wanting this smoke on the drive to the lake house. @F.M. there's a Southern Draw sampler that often comes up on cigarbid.com and is a great way to get to sample a lot of different styles. There's plenty of samplers out there, and I'd recommend doing that, in your search for your likes and dislikes. A simple and quick humidor is easy to come by from uncommon items, and it's easier to maintain nowadays, with all the products that are out to help you with this. That yellow box is an old Pelican camera case that I removed all the bottom foam from. It's airtight, doesn't have any odor to it (that may require help - leave it open in the sun for a day or 3, and you'll find that works wonders), and that Boveda pack keeps everything in there at a consistent humidity that I prefer, as well as absorbing/releasing excess if necessary.

I think there's one more Southern Draw to sample from that pack, but I'll have to go back and look at it to recall what it is, but tonight, it's the Firethorn. Supposedly, it's said to be a bit spicier, but I haven't experienced that. Just a nice smooth smoke, lots of flavor, and an easy draw to it. I have a few more, and after smoking this one, I plan to pair another one with some coffee tomorrow, as it seems like it'll go well with that. I'll advise against it if it turns out to suck, but my "coffee" isn't what you're thinking of - it's a cold brew coffee with some powdered salted caramel MCT oil. I need the caffeine, but the acidity is greatly reduced by cold brewing, the flavoring is to help me avoid the carbs and inflammatory response from liquid creamers. The MCT oil is to help with the brain fog in the morning, as well as assist the caffeine. Nowhere near as manly as a straight black coffee...maybe I should be switching to those bubble gum cigars? LOL

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Southern Draw Taster Pack - a 10-pack that shouldn't go for more than $50. I didn't realize there were TWO I haven't had yet - the Kudzu and the 303 Manos. I tend to like to have 2 per stick if I'm trying something new, just in case something goes haywire with one of them. If both go belly up...man, I dunno. It's never happened to me *knocks on his head*

Auction is good for one more day, and I still have my receipts for $44.50
 

Southern Draw Taster Pack - a 10-pack that shouldn't go for more than $50. I didn't realize there were TWO I haven't had yet - the Kudzu and the 303 Manos. I tend to like to have 2 per stick if I'm trying something new, just in case something goes haywire with one of them. If both go belly up...man, I dunno. It's never happened to me *knocks on his head*

Auction is good for one more day, and I still have my receipts for $44.50
Thanks so much for all the info. I’ll definitely go try to find the ones you suggested.

I probably should have clarified when I posted the list, I have every bourbon and scotch on the list. And purchased 2 of every cigar listed as well. My though was that I’d have a backup if I screwed something up.

The Hemingway and Jefferson Ocean was great together. So far that’s the first band I’ve kept to buy more. Off you have had Jefferson’s Ocean, I highly recommend it. It is produced in voyages, I think they’re on 30 or so right now. Each voyage taste very different. Voyage 24 is a great one if you can still find it where you live.

I was given a wooden cigar box and 2 Boveda packs as a makeshift humidor to store them, but I swapped the box for a pelican vault series handgun case that I had laying around when I realized it was going to take a while to get thru 20+ cigars.

I probably only smoke one about every week to 10 days. It’s gonna take me a while to sample everything on my list plus what I need to add to it now. But I’ll keep you posted on what I sample and enjoy. I never remember to take photos of anything so I apologize up front that my posts won’t be near as fun to look at as yours are.
 
Thanks so much for all the info. I’ll definitely go try to find the ones you suggested.

I probably should have clarified when I posted the list, I have every bourbon and scotch on the list. And purchased 2 of every cigar listed as well. My though was that I’d have a backup if I screwed something up.

The Hemingway and Jefferson Ocean was great together. So far that’s the first band I’ve kept to buy more. Off you have had Jefferson’s Ocean, I highly recommend it. It is produced in voyages, I think they’re on 30 or so right now. Each voyage taste very different. Voyage 24 is a great one if you can still find it where you live.

I was given a wooden cigar box and 2 Boveda packs as a makeshift humidor to store them, but I swapped the box for a pelican vault series handgun case that I had laying around when I realized it was going to take a while to get thru 20+ cigars.

I probably only smoke one about every week to 10 days. It’s gonna take me a while to sample everything on my list plus what I need to add to it now. But I’ll keep you posted on what I sample and enjoy. I never remember to take photos of anything so I apologize up front that my posts won’t be near as fun to look at as yours are.
One thing you want to check is if the air valve on your Pelican case is "automatic", or if it's manual - if it's equipped with one. I have one that's manual, and someone (probably my grandsons) had tinkered with it and opened it up. The boveda packs inside got crispier way faster than usual, so that's what tipped me off to that.

Boveda packs are NOT single-use, and can be rehydrated, in spite of what they recommend. Put the whole thing in some water and leave it until the pack feels like it's filled with jelly again. Let the exterior dry, and then you can put it back in your humidor. The gel inside won't absorb more than the % it's rated for, so don't worry about it being too wet. The paper wrapping is the only thing to be concerned about while it's still wet.

My favorite Hemingway is the Short Story. I think @Jimmers may have posted a Pic of his humidor with a few of those. That's a Cameroon wrapper, and if you're a fan, that's something to look for in future purchases. See the 2 I recommended above. Not all Cameroon wrappers are alike, and it's interesting how they manage such different flavors.

The size can also greatly influence the flavor, so that's something to be aware of while you're sampling things. Corona's or Lancero's are supposed to be more flavorful, in general, but I can't speak to that, as I'm a fan of Toro and Gordo sizes.
 
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