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New Speakers with Factory Head Unit?

RockShawn

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I was considering replacing the speakers on my FSH (only need 2 @ 6.5") for a little better sound. Maybe Skar or Kicker

Does anyone know if the factory head unit will power a better speaker? and will that alone improve sound and loudness?

I'm not looking for a system they can hear 2 miles away
 
I was considering replacing the speakers on my FSH (only need 2 @ 6.5") for a little better sound. Maybe Skar or Kicker

Does anyone know if the factory head unit will power a better speaker? and will that alone improve sound and loudness?

I'm not looking for a system they can hear 2 miles away
I replaced my oem head unit and speakers with same. I wanted tunes but didn’t want to start a sound system project. I’ve got others things I’d rather spend my money on.

If I wanted anything better I’d go with a separate head / amp set up. The oem unit gets very hot. I’m happy with oem system for now, plays tunes via Bluetooth and when I watch a movie I can get the sound to come through the speakers.
 
I’ve had the worst luck with aftermarket sound in my vehicles so I don’t wanna do a bunch of stuff. Just a little louder and more crisp mostly for under way with the main engine. At max volume I can’t hear the factory system when under way and can barely hear it using No Wake Mode.

I’m sure the factory jbl is only pushing 18watts per channel so this is probably a long shot question with just a speaker upgrade. But maybe someone has done it.
 
I’ve had the worst luck with aftermarket sound in my vehicles so I don’t wanna do a bunch of stuff. Just a little louder and more crisp mostly for under way with the main engine. At max volume I can’t hear the factory system when under way and can barely hear it using No Wake Mode.

I’m sure the factory jbl is only pushing 18watts per channel so this is probably a long shot question with just a speaker upgrade. But maybe someone has done it.

Mine is kinda the same, although I can hear my tunes when at idle but the engine sound is still quite loud. The linked thread below outlines the next step to reduce the overall perceived sound of your boat with the engine on. The sound reduction project is on my list of things to do as when I’m trolling at higher trolling speeds I use the engines and I’d like it to be quieter, it’s probably never going to be as quiet as outboards would be but if I can knock 3DB off (a halving of perceived sound) that would be a huge improvement. My plan will be to put sound deadening and absorbing materials on the engine hatch, the hatches of the storage compartments on either side of the engine bay, front, side, and rear bulk heads of the engine bay as well as in the aft bilge area which like the engine bay is a big drum. I’m also thinking of sound absorbing mats under the engines.

NOTE; Yamaha appears to have done away with egg crate foam type of sound insulation and has gone to the type that @Dixemon put on his engine hatch.


We get more wind noise on our boats than the bow rider boats do. I use these when I’m trolling all day by myself and all the time when I’m cruising any distance, or when using lawn equipment, riding dirt bikes using power tools etc…after six years I’ve still got well over half of these left.

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The other thing that I’ve found that cuts the sound down at cruising speed is a properly tuned impeller, there’s a lot of vibration / noise that comes out of the pump as well, in my experience a set of Skat Trak impellers dropped the sound level by 3DB in my boat, unfortunately the base pitch of those impellers is too high to be used at high altitude where I do the majority of my boating, and they’re not in business anymore, but I’m sure one of the twin screw impellers, this design was pioneered by Skat Trak, would help your situation at cruising speed. Everyone who has installed the twin screw impellers has reported an elimination of cavitation at cruising / towing / wake boarding speed which is where a lot of the noise is coming from, you can feel it in your feet. The twin screw impellers are expensive but I’d rather spend the $1000-$1200 on an impeller than a sound system. The other benefits of the twin screw impellers are the increase in overall performance such as much less speed drop off when cornering and the boat being much more planted or hooked up at speed, and better mpg.

One of THE, if not THE best improvements you can make to one of these jet boats is tuned impeller or impellers, I have two sets of tuned OEM impellers and I will tell you the difference between stock and the tuned impellers is amazing.



This is @anmut ’s review of the twin screw impellers, he notes a much lower pitch in sound and he picked up .3mpg.

And here’s another thread on the subject

Have a close look at your impeller, the edges should be smooth and without dings. The gap between the impeller and the wear ring should be between .014”-.0177”. If there are dings in the impeller blade or the gap is larger than .0177” then fixing that will improve noise and performance. The wear ring should not have any deep grooves either, some small surface scratching is not an issue, but if your finger nail will grab in a groove the wear ring should be replaced.
 
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improve the sound in stages - swap the factory speakers for the kickers or a set of polks db652. both are pretty efficient, and you'll prob notice more output. but then make a step 2 plan to add a small amp. then step 3 plan to add another set of speakers.

an amp will make the biggest difference.

several ppl on this forum have used this clarion with good results.


i've had an inexpensive mbquart marine amp in my boat for 6 seasons, still sounds great.

 
@FSH 210 Sport Love the ear plugs! classic.

I'll look into those improvements this winter. The engine sound doesn't really bother me that much, I came from a 1992 Evinrude 2 stroke so this is way less noise (and smoke)

the impeller is cool. I assume that is a do-it-yourself job and don't really have to take it to a mechanic, kinda like a Prop swap. I'll dig into that more.

@jthackman thanks for that advice. I was kind of leaning that way to just tiptoe in basically. the source unit is fine, it picks up Bluetooth quick and is absolutely fine for what I'll be using it for. I like the Clarion and had even considered doing the "hidden" setup from Garmin and use my MFD's to control it, but I really don't want to put that much money in sound right now. The OEM speaker covers are all yellowed out and old looking, So I'll start there.
 
If you want to hear it from two miles away, you'll have to have a good size budget. Also, if you can't do the work yourself or don't have the time take it to a shop.
 
If you want to hear it from two miles away, you'll have to have a good size budget. Also, if you can't do the work yourself or don't have the time take it to a shop.
No, the point was I don’t want that. I just wanna be able to hear it on my boat and it sound a little better.
 
No, the point was I don’t want that. I just wanna be able to hear it on my boat and it sound a little better.
I apologize for misreading it You may want to start by replacing the he amp depending on which one came stock.
You can find numerous threads on this topic In the he search.
 
I apologize for misreading it You may want to start by replacing the he amp depending on which one came stock.
You can find numerous threads on this topic In the he search.
I guess I was under the impression that mine does not have an amp. It’s just a two speaker system. Maybe I just made the assumption that the source unit is the only amplifier. I will look at that. I think the speakers have got to be replaced, no matter what and if there is not an amp then I might do a small two channel.

I did do some searching, my main question was just if speakers alone will make a noticeable difference. And maybe the real answer is I won’t know until I try.
 
If you want to hear music while cruising you'll need an amp.if you model doesn't have one.
 
@FSH 210 Sport Love the ear plugs! classic.

I'll look into those improvements this winter. The engine sound doesn't really bother me that much, I came from a 1992 Evinrude 2 stroke so this is way less noise (and smoke)

the impeller is cool. I assume that is a do-it-yourself job and don't really have to take it to a mechanic, kinda like a Prop swap. I'll dig into that more.

@jthackman thanks for that advice. I was kind of leaning that way to just tiptoe in basically. the source unit is fine, it picks up Bluetooth quick and is absolutely fine for what I'll be using it for. I like the Clarion and had even considered doing the "hidden" setup from Garmin and use my MFD's to control it, but I really don't want to put that much money in sound right now. The OEM speaker covers are all yellowed out and old looking, So I'll start there.
Yes the impeller is something you do yourself in so far as R&R the impeller. You may end up having to have the impeller fine tuned to get the rpm’s you want, which is max rpm’s at WFO. You should know how to R&R the pump anyway, and have tools with you to be able to remove a stick or something.

The engine noise is the reason you can’t hear the tunes.
 
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