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That is something to look at if you install solar. I'm going to do a few more comparisons before I settle on a system, but 240v is a must have for me. A 10Kw system will provide--on average--twice as much electricity as our two Teslas will require. In a long term power outage we'll just curtail our driving to what's necessary and the solar/batteries should supply the rest of our needs. Even here in cloudy Washington. Meanwhile, with the gas stations closed because of no power, my Blazer and AR240 will sit idle...
This one is a little more useful (and linked from the other article). I'm not big on the styling, but it's better than any of the Tesla truck renders I've seen to date.
This one is a little more useful (and linked from the other article). I'm not big on the styling, but it's better than any of the Tesla truck renders I've seen to date.
I don't know how useful that would be as a truck when the "bed" looks less than 4' long. Notice in the render the bed is not separate from the cab so unibody. Not really ideal as a truck IMO. Looks more like an SUV with the rear passenger area cutoff (Honda Ridgeline comes to mind). An El Camino is a more useful truck than that thing. Of them all the EV Ford F-150 would probably be the most ideal and realistic approach to an electronic truck IMO.
So... I dont own and have never thought of owning an ev.. but after reading this thread I feel a little lore educated. My question... if u have an ev amd you dont plug it in amd dont drive it for a few days will the batteries slowly discharge over time?
So... I dont own and have never thought of owning an ev.. but after reading this thread I feel a little lore educated. My question... if u have an ev amd you dont plug it in amd dont drive it for a few days will the batteries slowly discharge over time?
To answer your question; Yes and No. Sorry, but the car does not truly turn off. This is due to the fact it does draw a little power to do little thing like monitor surroundings, waiting for bluetooth hookups, flashing lights when you walk up to it (at night), apps checking on it, etc. I believe I read it uses 2-4 miles of charge per day. With that said, the Yes part, I believe after so many days (not sure how many) of sitting it does shut down.
I sure hope it looks better than the crap ass renders we've seen from fans. Most are entirely too futuristic or mad max styled to get any main stream acceptance.
I sure hope it looks better than the crap ass renders we've seen from fans. Most are entirely too futuristic or mad max styled to get any main stream acceptance.
Elon has said that none of the renders on the internet are close to being correct. That said, he also has said that the design will be "polarizing"; love it or hate it. I'm going to hazard a guess that most older pick up owners aren't going to like it. Just a guess. I could be wrong... Elon has used mis-direction before. I'm pretty certain though that it will be a re-thinking of what a pick up is. That could be good if it improves on how the truck will do it's job.
What's really funny is how the press can't differentiate between "It can pull 300,000 pounds" and "It will be rated to tow 300,000 pounds". This just goes to show that most of what the press reports is not accurate, on this or any other subject.
Elon has said that none of the renders on the internet are close to being correct. That said, he also has said that the design will be "polarizing"; love it or hate it. I'm going to hazard a guess that most older pick up owners aren't going to like it. Just a guess. I could be wrong... Elon has used mis-direction before. I'm pretty certain though that it will be a re-thinking of what a pick up is. That could be good if it improves on how the truck will do it's job.
What's really funny is how the press can't differentiate between "It can pull 300,000 pounds" and "It will be rated to tow 300,000 pounds". This just goes to show that most of what the press reports is not accurate, on this or any other subject.
I would wager most owners can't make that distinction either. This board, and a few other truck specific boards are about the only place where you find a few people that really understand the ratings system, and how the different loadings are calculated. I would say most see an add on TV that says a particular make/model can tow up to a certain weight, and they thing every one of those models can do that. Equally as troubling is the common misconception that the engine has much to do with capacity, when really chassis, brakes, and overall vehicle dynamics play a much larger role in capability........Anywho.......back to the thread at hand.
I don't mind a complete rethink, but large departure from "standard" designs are almost always met with a lot of pushback. I would consider the average pickup owner/user to be largely conservative in their design choices overall, so hopefully Elon doesn't completely jump the shark on the first attempt.
100% agree. I don't think there was anything special about the pull, I just don't think it was movie magic, just not that impressive of a feet IMO.
We have a big charity event every year here in Louisville. UPS sponsers it, and it's on the taxiways here at the UPS Worldport. Pull a 747 with a team. We literally get teams of 20 people to RACE pulling a loaded 747 something like 50 feet. If 20 people can do that, a single pickup truck isn't all that impressive to me.
You were not impressed only because you know the forces involved.... It's still pretty slick to see a passenger vehicle move something that weighs 10X-100X of itself. It may be theater, but it certainly is visually impressive. Using your 747 example...Only 20 people pulling a machine able to FLY 400+ people in the freaking air!!! We have to be impressed by something! What a fantastic world we live in.
You were not impressed only because you know the forces involved.... It's still pretty slick to see a passenger vehicle move something that weighs 10X-100X of itself. It may be theater, but it certainly is visually impressive. Using your 747 example...Only 20 people pulling a machine able to FLY 400+ people in the freaking air!!! We have to be impressed by something! What a fantastic world we live in.
Lol! 30 minutes waiting for a full charge? In thirty minutes I can go to sleep and awake twice, watch Netflix thrice, eat food, and jump in my swimming pool! Definitely not waiting for that much! Not matter electric or not!
Keep in mind that's only when you need more than 200 miles on the same day. The rest of your life you wait 0 minutes for re-fueling, which now involves driving to fuel station, dispensing fuel, paying for it, and driving back on your route.
instead of refueling, at home, you spend 10 seconds plugging the car up.
Keep in mind that's only when you need more than 200 miles on the same day. The rest of your life you wait 0 minutes for re-fueling, which now involves driving to fuel station, dispensing fuel, paying for it, and driving back on your route.
instead of refueling, at home, you spend 10 seconds plugging the car up.
I speculate it would be worth about a crap...not a valuable one.. It will keep your 12v battery topped off, but that's about it. No way I knew this, but I looked it up..
Google says " The most efficient mass-produced solar modules have power density values of up to 175 W/m2 " asuming a 4x8 sheet of plywood would cover the bed then it's about 3.5 sqMeters, so max of 620w, generally the capacity is about half of expected output with all weather conditions, but lets assume in a pinch the panel could be rotated and pointed to the sun by the user in case of emergencies for argument sake...
Best situation maybe 10 hours of Full sun (dreaming here by now...) it's 6Kw/Hrs of charge. zero losses, and economy of around 4 miles per Kw/H is 24 miles per day of charge is this dream scenario. It's not imperceptible, and I'm impressed how high it ended up being. I guess you could take several panels on the bed of the pickup and spread them out at your camp site, so you could continue your trip for "free" in a few days. (Quotes used because the panels are NOT free)
