fixed my water leak

[FSH 210 Sport]

No scupper or check valve go the drain

Wouldn‘t adding a scupper type of hull fitting eliminate that back flow problem ?

 

[Sx240]

Thanks for the info

 

[rad1026]

Its not so much the water washing up, but the water comes up the tray's drain hose. If you open the clean out hatch and stand on the swim platform and just bounce the stern a little the water squirts up the drain. I put a plug in my drain to prevent this and now i dont get water on top of my clean outs

Explain this please. Put a plug in what drain? The one on top of the clean out port hatch that is supposed to drain water back to the scupper?

 

[rad1026]

I know this is probably a stupid thought and I have not tested it, but..... The clean out hatch has latches that pull the hatch door tight. the interior of the clean out compartment has rubber weather stripping. When the clean out hatch door is down and latched, was the intent to keep that hatch water tight? I mean, so much time and energy is spent on unscrewing the inside cover and making that water tight. Has anyone concentrated on making the hatch water tight, so no water goes in there to begin with?

 

[212s]

Do you and @Neutron have scupper type check valves on the clean out tray drain? Mine has the scupper type check valve.

I don't think so...didn't look too closely, but a vertical scupper to stop water going up won't work as well as one facing down as it will be open unless there's a spring on the flap to keep the valve closed until water from above pushes down and out.

I sealed up my clean out tray over winter. Now the starboard clean out tube is full and the port clean out tube is about 1/3 full...so I guess my clean out tray drain is allowing water back up there..

My tubes are typically port = 1/3 and strb = 1/2 full of water...I rarely find them over half and never full.

 

[212s]

Just noticed the tray design is a lot different on your boat than mine. Mine has two large channels, one on either side of the tray that water will run out of, so mine will not get more than a 1/4” of water on top of the tray...

The newer hulls from the last few years have channel drains instead of a drain tube. The 210/212/240/242 model hulls have not been updated yet so mine does not have the channels. Your newer FSH, 250 series, and the 195s models have the drain channels...better idea I think.

 

[212s]

I know this is probably a stupid thought and I have not tested it, but..... The clean out hatch has latches that pull the hatch door tight. the interior of the clean out compartment has rubber weather stripping. When the clean out hatch door is down and latched, was the intent to keep that hatch water tight? I mean, so much time and energy is spent on unscrewing the inside cover and making that water tight. Has anyone concentrated on making the hatch water tight, so no water goes in there to begin with?

The rubber stripping is not water tight, but meant to reduce water entry and splashes. My hatch door has just one latch in the center and it isn't tight, just snug enough to keep the latch closed. With my drain tube, it wouldn't matter as water splashes up the tube into the hatch area anyway.

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

The newer hulls from the last few years have channel drains instead of a drain tube. The 210/212/240/242 model hulls have not been updated yet so mine does not have the channels. Your newer FSH, 250 series, and the 195s models have the drain channels...better idea I think.

Right on.... just went out and checked my clean out tray drain, it’s vertical like yours and there is no scupper... I’ll bounce test the stern with the clean out hatch open and see if I can get water to come up through the drain....

The water in the clean out tubes isn’t an issue for me most of the time. The exception being the shoulder seasons when overnight lows can get into the teens so I just make sure to remove them and drain the water out of the plugs.

 

[rad1026]

The rubber stripping is not water tight, but meant to reduce water entry and splashes. My hatch door has just one latch in the center and it isn't tight, just snug enough to keep the latch closed. With my drain tube, it wouldn't matter as water splashes up the tube into the hatch area anyway.

See, this is what is concerning me. Water coming up through the tube into the hatch area. How is that happening? Where does that tube drain to? It must drain to the bilge. I'm really going to have to look at that.

 

[HangOutdoors]

The tube on mine drains above the jet, above the scupper outside. Not sure about other models. I am going to go take a look and snap a picture. It would seem that it should have a one way flapper on it but I don't know.

 

[HangOutdoors]

No one way valve. It is the white piece in the top back. Sounds like a mod with a valve is required?

 

[rad1026]

Thanks! So ya, if the rear deck is submerged or seeing a lot of water surges from surfing, etc. it sure seems like a good possibility water could come up the tube and in to the clean out port area. That is such a strange place to put the exit from the drain. Really going to look at that next time I'm out.

 

[rad1026]

Maybe that is why I am seeing water on top of my starboard clean out plug.

 

[Neutron]

You can cut the hose and install a one way check valve if its a concern

 

[Cleveland Steamer]

My boat seems to take on a lot of water. Can you post a picture of where you sealed up the leak?

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

See, this is what is concerning me. Water coming up through the tube into the hatch area. How is that happening? Where does that tube drain to? It must drain to the bilge. I'm really going to have to look at that.

To me, this is not concerning, just slightly annoying.

It happens because the water pressure there is great enough to push the water up the drain tube, like when you stop and the water rushes up behind the boat.

When the pressure drops the water will drain back down into the water, so it does not drain to the bilge. Apparently what happens is the inspection hatch allows a little of this water to drain into the bilge. Some folks have added screws and gasketing material to the inspection hatch to keep that from happening.

I suppose that one could add a scupper type of drain to this drain, it would not stop all of the water from coming up that drain, but I think it would reduce the amount dramatically when the rubber flap slapped shut.

 

[212s]

Right on.... just went out and checked my clean out tray drain, it’s vertical like yours and there is no scupper...

Wait you don't have the drain channels? You have a drain tube? Or both?
Below is the stern of a 2020 210 FSH Sport:

 

[212s]

You can cut the hose and install a one way check valve if its a concern

This might be a good option...lets any water up top drain, and keeps water from coming up the tube.

 

[Troy JK]

My boat seems to take on a lot of water. Can you post a picture of where you sealed up the leak?

See that rectangular hole? There’s a tray that covers the hole. The tray overlaps the hole by about 3/4”. They don’t seal it very well and it leaks. That needs to be sealed properly. AND the inspection cover doesn’t snap in and probably leaks also. I’ve been thinking about what to do it also. Im Thinking that instead of inventing some type of clips, I’ll find something to put on top of it that is pushed down by the lid and puts pressure down with enough force to keep it sealed. It has an o-ring. Tried a tennis ball but it isn’t big enough. Still checking options on that.

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

Wait you don't have the drain channels? You have a drain tube? Or both?
Below is the stern of a 2020 210 FSH Sport:

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I have both....