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Yamaha 255 FSH sport H in the Florida Keys Gulf & Atlantic

AaronCarl

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Boat Make
Yamaha
Year
2024
Boat Model
FSH Deluxe
Boat Length
25
So I am looking to purchase a new 2024 FSH H boat I will be using this in the Florida keys taking family to sand bars reef fishing just cruising around the keys, I would also like to be able to make the Bimini trip. I have been looking for about a year now and plan on buying this summer I do not see any negatives in this Yamaha and when compared to the traditional dual outboard motor boats they are twice the money and does not seem to have all the options the Yamahas do, Does anyone have any suggestions or thoughts on this

Thank you
 
We ALL have thoughts on this, and most of them are good! Great boats, and this is an amazing forum to learn from. I can't speak to the 25' boats or big water boating, since i'm in a puny 21' FSH on a puny 2000 acre lake attached to a river.

Add a little detail to your subject line, and you'll get FSH guys in the Keys and Gulf area to open it up and read your questions.
 
I am landlocked and live nowhere near the ocean lol. The 25’ FSH was the boat I loved but the wife didn’t want it. Seemed so versatile and if we lived near the ocean it would be the one, although I’m bias to Yamaha now. I’d get seakeeper or some sort of trim tabs and I’d be confident making a trip to Bimini, but smaller boats have made the trip for sure. I will say, if you can, get on a jet boat to make sure it’s something you’d pull the trigger on. They are much different from your traditional boat, but we’d never go back!
 
I now have steering for the H series boats to make them track straight at all speeds and improve the handling in wind, weaves and strong currents. Here is a post from a customer who tried it out recently.

Rick F.
Top contributor
2024 FSH Sport H Cobra Jet Steering.
I installed the Cobra Jet steering fins and tested on the lake yesterday. One word….Amazing!!
The install is simple but I did spend time ensuring the fin was aligned (clocked) perfectly with the nozzle.
I noticed the difference the moment I backed off the trailer. Low speed control was much better. Obviously the helm control is the the way to go around a dock, but the Cobra fins provide more control in the absence of the articulating keel.
My complaints with this boat from the first day on the water were …constant drifting at trolling speed (3-5mph)…left turn every time you cut the throttle and come off plane…drifting when on plane at speed.
Tested yesterday with 10-15 mph winds with moderate rollers from wake boats and bass tournament. Trolling speed required very little to no input to maintain course! As a fisherman this was my primary concern. Problem eliminated!! The left turn dive also eliminated. Drifting at speed reduced significantly.
Is it worth it?? Absolutely!!
I hope this helps the others that have been asking about this system.






 
Welcome to this site !

Thanks for providing the basics of what you’re going to be using this boat for, and you've recognized the bang for the buck value of these boats. The FSH series, Family Sport Hybrid, are very versatile in their layout and amenities.

A question that I have is whether or not you are a first time boat buyer? If not what is your experience with boating?

Like @Coult45 I’m a 210 FSH owner, and a fresh water boater on small and large lakes and rivers like @Coult45 and @Acard7, and I primarily use my boat for fishing. The first member I can think of that has a H model FSH is @TeenGee so he has the real world knowledge of these boats, and he moved up from a 210 FSH, so hopefully he’ll stop by and offer up his knowledge and experience. @Zackdadams has a 252 FSH which is the normally aspirated 25’ FSH boats in the Gulf of America and @Bugslayer I think has the 255 FSH Sport E and boats in the Sea of Cortes down in Baja, again if I’ve got that correct.

Having said all that here are my thoughts. Firstly, the 252 / 255 FSH boats are sexy beasts for sure! I’ve sort of lusted after them since their introduction which was the year after I bought my 210. One thing you may not know about the 25’ Yamaha boats is that they all share the same hull with the exception of the wake series boats. The H model with its Helm Master joystick control I’m sure makes for easy handling around the dock. But I do think that Yamaha could have hit a grand slam home run in the bottom of the 9th inning after winning the previous three games of the World Series had they included the rest of the fishing features offered by the Helm Master EX found on the outboard powered boats. Those features include, spot lock or fish point which enables the mfd to hold the boat in position in any orientation, drift point which allows you to set a slow drift in any direction / speed over a structure for example, trolling speed from a crawl up to Wahoo speeds, and auto pilot. So yes, a twin outboard engined center console would cost A LOT more money, but you’d be getting a lot of features. However, you can get most of those things with an electric trolling motor, I believe it is the motor guide trolling motor that will work directly with the Simrad mfd that comes with this boat. @Zackdadams did an excellent write up for his trolling motor install, among other things he added, FSH 252/255 Trolling Motor Project so did @Roger Vrooman 255 FSH Sport E Trolling Motor Project

The 255 H model uses the SVHO 1.8L engine as you may or may not know like the 255 Sport E model with 250 hp per engine, both of these boats have the push button start / stop and the reversing buckets are electronically controlled. The H model has independently controlled thrust nozzles (for the joy stick control) while the sport E’s nozzles move together and has the articulating keel. The Sport E does have the ability to use aftermarket directional control devices that some folks have installed, whereas the H model does not due to its bucket design and independent steering. If you’ve never had a twin engined boat then you may or may not be familiar with splitting the throttles to use one engine forward and one reverse or differential thrust, this is a huge advantage for control around the dock and Marina.

The 252 FSH now uses the normally aspirated 1.9L engine which are 200 hp each and has the four bladed impellers (if my information is correct) and the combination of improvements to the 1.8 L that made the 1.9L with its longer intake runners, valve timing etc reduced noise and vibration over the 1.8L. I don’t know of anyone on this site that has a 252, but, others have the bow rider 25’ hulls with the 1.9L engines and all have been positive about its performance.

The 252 FSH uses a keyed stop / start and has manually controlled reversing buckets, which allows for unlimited low speed thrust control, meaning you can barely open the gates to creep forward or open them in increments for slow speed control / trolling. Whereas the E drive or electronically controlled buckets of the H and Sport E are in neutral or forward, on the Sport E model the first detent forward is the TDE position or thrust directional enhancer (partially opens the bucket and some thrust goes rearward and some goes down and to the sides) the TDE used in conjunction with the no wake mode (increases the throttle in three steps for low speed control) dramatically increases slow speed control. I think the H model just goes to idle ahead, I’m not sure if it has a variant of the TDE position. I’ve seen many instances where people have not employed the TDE position and the no wake mode that the boat comes with to address low speed maneuvering I have found that the TDE and no wake are all I need and do not have any aftermarket directional control devices.

For me, as a fresh water fisherman I would lean towards the 252 FSH because of the analogue control of the buckets as my trolling speeds can be lower than full idle ahead… Having said, the raw power and speed of the SVHO engines is certainly alluring.

Another difference between the normally aspirated 1.9L engines and the super charged SVHO engines is that the 1.9’s use regular (87 octane) fuel and the SVHO engines require premium (91 octane) fuel. For some folks that can be an issue with either availability and or cost of operation. The SVHO engines are a bit thirstier than the 1.9’s.

I do believe that most of the other features between the three models are about the same though, and those features are many and excellent. Plenty of storage, two live wells, forward insulated fish box that can double as a large onboard ice chest, plenty of rod holders, tackle center… a note here on the live wells, you do need to keep the aft starboard live well full to keep the boat balanced. The swim deck of course is a huge feature in that you get another couple feet of deck space, a place to lounge at the sand bar, and it’s where I land most of my fish.

If you use the sites search function you’ll find a plethora of threads and posts on these boats.

As with most things, there are compromises between boats, the Yamaha boats are great for family fun with their props tucked up inside and skinny water ability. But they lack a bow flare and won’t be as dry of a ride in bigger water than other boats, their 20° dead rise is a great compromise between wave cutting and stability but won’t cut the water like a 24° dead rise boat will. But overall you just can’t beat the bang for the buck!
 
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Here are some of my comments about the 255 H:

One final comment. Next month I am having a local shop fabricate a permanent shade extension for the T-top. Adding 2 feet forward and 4 feet aft. I'll post pictures once complete.

Now a question. Where in the Keys will you be going?
 
I have a 2024 255 Sport H.

My home marina is Ponce Inlet (east coast of central Florida) where the boat is used primarily for fishing within 15 miles of shore. I usually take it out 2-3 times a week for solo runs at nearshore reefs. We take it down to Marathon / Islamorada a few times a year with the family. Down there it's used for snorkeling, diving, fishing, crusing, etc.

Let's get right down to it-- It does not perform as well as other 25 foot center consoles while offshore. The boat is flat out not comfortable or confidence inspiring in anything worse than 3ft of chop. Add some 4 foot swells in the mix and the pucker factor is intense.

I have added zipwake and Jeff's new cobra jet fins. They did help out quite a bit. The boat will now track straight without constant input. I can get the bow to stay up almost enough when riding a following sea to feel comfortable, but it still does not compare to a real offshore center console with trim-able engines and proper electronic tabs.

The joystick is amazing and works as advertised.

The rear swim deck is fantastic for snorkeling and sand bars.

The lack of props is reassuring with kids jumping in and climbing around in the back.

This boat does everything pretty well-- but nothing perfectly.


Now for my gripe list:
  • The engines are extremely loud, especially when compared to outboards at idle.
  • There's no autopilot solution, even though it has optimus electronic steering.
  • The fish box is tiny.
  • There's no real dry storage.
  • Floating weed lines and sargassum in canals are a real issue with the jet drives.
  • The gas tank is small at 110 gallons and it requires premium fuel. I run a 25g ATL bladder for further offshore trips and planned Dry Tortugas/Bahamas trips this summer, still not sure that will be enough. I'll probably grab another one before then.
  • The fit and finish of the boat leaves a LOT to be desired. That's why it's half to 1/3 the price of the other options. You can see the difference just by looking in the console. Instead of doing any proper wire management, they literally just use a piece of canvas to hide the wiring mess like a shower curtain..

Don't get me wrong-- I don't regret the purchase. It was my first new boat and the price was right at $120k. These boats just look the part of an offshore boat more than it actually is. I've had mine about 9 months so far and am already planning to upgrade to a 27-28' dual engine CC for next season. If yamaha made the FSH in a 27+ it wouldnt make my list.

Good luck with your search!
 
I have a 2024 255 Sport H.

My home marina is Ponce Inlet (east coast of central Florida) where the boat is used primarily for fishing within 15 miles of shore. I usually take it out 2-3 times a week for solo runs at nearshore reefs. We take it down to Marathon / Islamorada a few times a year with the family. Down there it's used for snorkeling, diving, fishing, crusing, etc.

Let's get right down to it-- It does not perform as well as other 25 foot center consoles while offshore. The boat is flat out not comfortable or confidence inspiring in anything worse than 3ft of chop. Add some 4 foot swells in the mix and the pucker factor is intense.

I have added zipwake and Jeff's new cobra jet fins. They did help out quite a bit. The boat will now track straight without constant input. I can get the bow to stay up almost enough when riding a following sea to feel comfortable, but it still does not compare to a real offshore center console with trim-able engines and proper electronic tabs.

The joystick is amazing and works as advertised.

The rear swim deck is fantastic for snorkeling and sand bars.

The lack of props is reassuring with kids jumping in and climbing around in the back.

This boat does everything pretty well-- but nothing perfectly.


Now for my gripe list:
  • The engines are extremely loud, especially when compared to outboards at idle.
  • There's no autopilot solution, even though it has optimus electronic steering.
  • The fish box is tiny.
  • There's no real dry storage.
  • Floating weed lines and sargassum in canals are a real issue with the jet drives.
  • The gas tank is small at 110 gallons and it requires premium fuel. I run a 25g ATL bladder for further offshore trips and planned Dry Tortugas/Bahamas trips this summer, still not sure that will be enough. I'll probably grab another one before then.
  • The fit and finish of the boat leaves a LOT to be desired. That's why it's half to 1/3 the price of the other options. You can see the difference just by looking in the console. Instead of doing any proper wire management, they literally just use a piece of canvas to hide the wiring mess like a shower curtain..

Don't get me wrong-- I don't regret the purchase. It was my first new boat and the price was right at $120k. These boats just look the part of an offshore boat more than it actually is. I've had mine about 9 months so far and am already planning to upgrade to a 27-28' dual engine CC for next season. If yamaha made the FSH in a 27+ it wouldnt make my list.

Good luck with your search!
I really appreciate your info we live in WV and have a house in Marathon that we spend around 5 weeks a year at I currently have a 19' beavertail flats boat. I really enjoy fishing the flats, however my family not as much the boat is too small for us all to fish from or take to the sand bars I want to reach or take onto the Atlantic. So I have been looking for something bigger I have had several sea do jet skis and boats never a issue or a complaint with jet drives. The beavertail was my first experience in saltwater and I have learned a lot with this little boat. What concerned me the most about what you said is the swells however I don't know if I would even try to be out in those conditions and the seagrass i have seen times in the gulf where there has been a lot of grass floating around so ?? I have been looking at the sea keeper ride and my boat dealer has a appointment tomorrow to discuss putting this on the Yamaha I read good things about it. What I want to do with the boat seems to be exactly what you are doing with yours, My dealer has gotten the price down to 90K _+ all there nonsense charges on this new 2024 255 FSH sport H and with us only using it 5 weeks a year on pretty days I am thinking its the correct move, I have looked at other 27-30' center consoles new and used but I keep going back to the Yamaha, I did find a Rabalo R360 that was very nice LOL 600K
 
The seagrass in the Keys is a pain. Jeff (@Cobra Jet Steering LLC) came up with a way to clear the inlets that works most of the time.
We have visited Largo, Islamorada, and Bahia Honda. Gone in the bay and ocean. It's really nice having a boat that draws less than 2' of water and has nothing hanging down below the keel. When we had a 210FSH we found ourselves on a grass flat on plane and had 0.7 feet of water below us. My wife asked if we should slow down. I said pray we don't slow down. I don't recommend getting into that kind of situation, but not having a propeller saved us a lot of problems in that situation.
 
The seagrass in the Keys is a pain. Jeff (@Cobra Jet Steering LLC) came up with a way to clear the inlets that works most of the time.
We have visited Largo, Islamorada, and Bahia Honda. Gone in the bay and ocean. It's really nice having a boat that draws less than 2' of water and has nothing hanging down below the keel. When we had a 210FSH we found ourselves on a grass flat on plane and had 0.7 feet of water below us. My wife asked if we should slow down. I said pray we don't slow down. I don't recommend getting into that kind of situation, but not having a propeller saved us a lot of problems in that situation.
so are you happy with the boat would you recommend it ?
 
From another post:
Here is a list of the features I spent a couple of hours discussing with Simrad tech support. The discussion was after hours of listening to "your position in the queue is X."

I have an NSX12 with software version 1.9.204. It is what Yamaha installs in the 2024 Yamaha 255 FSH Sport. H.
1. Shallow water less than 1 foot below the transducer, NSX thinks it is in 5 feet of water.
2. NSX Won’t auto route on the move. Wants to start the route from location auto route calculation was initiated. Distance to Destination keeps increasing.
3. NSX Auto routing through a swamp where chart shows 0 feet of water or under a bridge my boat will not fit under when there is a high bridge adjacent the low bridge.
4. NSX Keel offset only showing on the Echo. Other apps show distance from transducer to the bottom not from keel to bottom.
5. Down and Structure Scan are disabled when Echo Scan is on Chirp.
6. Can’t reset NSX Trip Odometer, Average Trip Speed, and Trip Time.
7. NSX can't Hide Depth on multiple apps when they are running in the same window.

According to tech support these are all software issues.
I told tech support I was frustrated with the performance of the NSX and if these issues were not remedied soon I would be removing the NSX and installing a Garmin which has none of the above listed "features". He was very understanding and agreed he would be frustrated also.
Here are a couple of responses fro tech support:
For #2, "looks like there is a fix in the pipe. For now, go to settings Preferences and increase the arrival radius it may prevent this."
For #6, "Although trip and ODO can be shown the work to implement the reset of these is still on backlog."
I'm taking the boat in for servicing and warranty work next week. I will be talking with the salesman and the warranty person about these problems with the NSX and asking them to raise the issues with Yamaha.
 
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