JetBoatPilot's New Surf Tech, Thrust Vector Wake

[tabbibus]

Imo that's least important because if they are on the tube they should expect to get wet. We were using a 2person yamaha sit up right tube all last year never had huge issue for water spray.

Idk how long rope was it was made for rubbing though so would guess 60ft

Tubed last friday on 62 degree water! Would not had mind less spray haha

 

[MidnightRider]

We've never had any problem with spray when tubbing behind our 212x since we made up a longer tubbing rope. We tube from the tower (I know, save the rant) and a 75' rope from the tower puts them just outside the spray range even when belly tubbing. Not saying it isn't a nice side affect of the TVW but personally wouldn't buy it just for that purpose.

 

[afsigma21]

Imo that's least important because if they are on the tube they should expect to get wet. We were using a 2person yamaha sit up right tube all last year never had huge issue for water spray.

Idk how long rope was it was made for rubbing though so would guess 60ft

It really just depends on your useage, we, like @Mainah, like to really whip people around and slingshot, the spray has made us not want to do the thing we do the most. Once I catch up from the Bimini trip on my budget, these are #1 on my list.

 

[Wisefam22]

It really just depends on your useage, we, like @Mainah, like to really whip people around and slingshot, the spray has made us not want to do the thing we do the most. Once I catch up from the Bimini trip on my budget, these are #1 on my list.

Oh my goal is to sling people off as fast as possible if they have ever ridden before and arent afraid. Also like to see how high they can fly.

I guess people get on expecting to get wet. Never had anyone complain about jet wash.

@JetBoatPilot any update from over weekend... more testing/tweeks?

 

[Scuba_ref]

I do get complaints of jet spray when we shorten the rope to 15 or 20 feet!

 

[John Morstad]

We've never had any problem with spray when tubbing behind our 212x since we made up a longer tubbing rope. We tube from the tower (I know, save the rant) and a 75' rope from the tower puts them just outside the spray range even when belly tubbing. Not saying it isn't a nice side affect of the TVW but personally wouldn't buy it just for that purpose.

I thought it isn’t recommended to tube from the wake tower due to the increase resistance from a tube putting extra stress on the tower. Anyone else heard this?

 

[biffdotorg]

I thought it isn’t recommended to tube from the wake tower due to the increase resistance from a tube putting extra stress on the tower. Anyone else heard this?

Please don't hijack this thread with that horrible conversation. Let's just agree that you didn't ask that question here since we have been having such an intelligent conversation. Feel free to start another thread so that everyone has the chance to flame you and we don't have to sift through the myriad of opinions here. I do say that with all due respect, it's a fair question, but gets rehashed at length at least twice a season.

 

[tabbibus]

@John Morstad you seem to be a newer member. This is one of those controversial topics. @MidnightRider did say "save the rant". Are you supposed to? No. Do some owners do it? Yes. I agree with the above comment, lets not derail this thread in that direction.

 

[MidnightRider]

I thought it isn’t recommended to tube from the wake tower due to the increase resistance from a tube putting extra stress on the tower. Anyone else heard this?

@John Morstad Forum Search tool is your friend on this topic.

 

[Matt Phillips]

@biffdotorg ... thanks for saving the discussion!

 

[Wisefam22]

I wonder what effect it has on spray though... you know tubing from... nm...

Its 83 here @JetBoatPilot must be shooting more quality video today.

 

[MattFX4]

I wonder what effect it has on spray though... you know tubing from... nm...

Its 83 here @JetBoatPilot must be shooting more quality video today.

Picture perfect day here in GA. Too bad the weekend looks sucky. I agree jet spray is an issue with standard tube ropes when really getting on the throttle. I’ve had friends riding tube on stomach and couldn’t take the spray to the face.

 

[John Morstad]

Please don't hijack this thread with that horrible conversation. Let's just agree that you didn't ask that question here since we have been having such an intelligent conversation. Feel free to start another thread so that everyone has the chance to flame you and we don't have to sift through the myriad of opinions here. I do say that with all due respect, it's a fair question, but gets rehashed at length at least twice a season.

Give me a break I simply asked one question! I could understand your concern if there were a bunch of replies, but come on. There is a better way to re-direct. Just because I am not new, I just don't post that frequently.

 

[Speedling]

Give me a break I simply asked one question! I could understand your concern if there were a bunch of replies, but come on. There is a better way to re-direct. Just because I am not new, I just don't post that frequently.

Some people just haven't learned how to be polite on the internet. And the only reason that multiple posts were created to your question was because of the way he treated it. To be polite and concise I will tell you that you are correct and you should not pull a tube from the tower. It creates more side Force especially compared to other water sports.

 

[J-RAD]

Back to the Future 3. Classic!

 

[MidnightRider]

Give me a break I simply asked one question! I could understand your concern if there were a bunch of replies, but come on. There is a better way to re-direct. Just because I am not new, I just don't post that frequently.

Might have been a better way to reply but he isn’t wrong. There are more than one thread out there about this topic and it’s controversial at best. For every one person that says it will destroy your boat and kill you there is another that has done it their whole life without issue. So just comes down to if you want to believe the Yamaha lawyers - Yamaha’s own marketing material shows tubes being pulled from the tower for crying out loud. So this topic can and has gone off the rails many times in the past - hence my “save the rant” comment and the reaction you got. Suggest searching for the other threads for more in depth discussion - you’ll get both sides of the story. Now back to the OP topic of the TVW.

 

[swatski]

How can you possibly derail this thread, lol? started last December(?) with a product announcement. While we wait to see it, naturally there is speculation and sidetracking. All good.
Here is the Yamaha's own commercial with tube towing off the tower of a 2016 AR240.


Those towers are literally overbuilt for towing, I have had zero issues doing what Yamaha has shown us in their promotional materials, and while I generally hate tubes and try to encourage my kids to practice "skilled" sports, I have no reservations what-so-ever to tow a big tube off of my tower. See below:
(Incidentally, this video clip also makes it plain my kids do not seem to suffer much from any overspray...)

Back on topic of improving the wake - wakeboarding wake is weak (almost non-existant without serious amount of ballast - see below) behind our boats, there is a ton of room for improvement:


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[tabbibus]

How can you possibly derail this thread, lol? started last December(?) with a product announcement. While we wait to see it, naturally there is speculation and sidetracking. All good.
Here is the Yamaha's own commercial with tube towing off the tower of a 2016 AR240.
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Those towers are literally overbuilt for towing, I have had zero issue doing what Yamaha has shown us in their comercial, and while I generally hate tubes and try to encourage my kids to practice "skilled" sports, I have no reservations what-so-ever to tow a big tube off of my tower. See below:
(Incidentally, this video clip also makes it plain my kids do not seem to suffer much from any overspray...)

Back on topic of improving the wake - wakeboarding wake is weak (almost non-existant without serious amount of ballast - see below) behind our boats, there is a ton of room for improvement:
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Awesome drone footage. What speed where you going there? How long was that rope?

 

[swatski]

Awesome drone footage. What speed where you going there? How long was that rope?

Thank you! Speed here would be about 18-20mph. This rope would be a standard old wakeboarding rope - 65ft plus 5-10ft extension minus the handle part - so somewhere around 70(?).

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Let me leave this here as a public service announcement:

Some of the most frequent and most serious tubing related injuries occur due to head to head contact between tubers.

For the boat’s health- practice soft starts and keep the rope taut at all times. Happy riding everyone.

Edit: and one more thing... (someone just reminded me of) very important to inflate the tube (bottom) very hard. We often finish using a hand pump. Makes a huge difference - your tower will thank you!

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[biffdotorg]

Damnit Swatski, and you had the best response to that question yet with actual photos from Yamaha!!

Sorry for killing your thread Will, we tried. Time to start a new Thrust Vector Wake thread, as this one is officially hijacked.