Not a good day for me today. Can’t play near full volume

[Mohamed Z Sherif]

Every time i put the volume up the system looses sound all together. I have to shut It down and wait a few seconds before i get anything back out of It.
Anyone had this before

 

[bronze_10]

Over heat? Or power supply cables not large enough.

 

[Mohamed Z Sherif]

All

Over heat? Or power supply cables not large enough.

All original wiring and speakers except for i added 2 rev10 with their own amp and own power supply. I see those speakers not working i don’t see how It can shut my whole system

 

[Julian]

On my 2016 the cabin speakers and the wetsounds bar were run in series. If I turned it up, it would put the main amp into protection which in turn would do the same to the secondary amps in line. Once I got the speakers out of series this stopped happening.

 

[Mohamed Z Sherif]

On my 2016 the cabin speakers and the wetsounds bar were run in series. If I turned it up, it would put the main amp into protection which in turn would do the same to the secondary amps in line. Once I got the speakers out of series this stopped happening.

Did that start from day 1 or long after?
I didn’t have this problem before. 60 hours on the boat now.

 

[Recoveringfiberglassaddic]

So are your cabin/inboat speakers powered by their own stand alone amp or direct from the head unit??

 

[Mohamed Z Sherif]

So are your cabin/inboat speakers powered by their own stand alone amp or direct from the head unit??

Everything is stock except the 2 rev10 i installed on the tower
They have their own amp and own power from the battery

 

[Julian]

Did that start from day 1 or long after?
I didn’t have this problem before. 60 hours on the boat now.

It didn't start from day one, but only after I drove the stereo hard for a while. Then it started happening more often (I think the protection circuit would blow easier....or I just started listening louder!).

Your amps are different than mine (wetsounds vs Polk).

I added a 4 channel amp and put my 2 new cabin speakers on one channel, and the wetsounds bar on their own channel. The wiring for this is linked in my 242X signature (I'm pretty sure)

 

[redthumper9]

Does the amp and speakers that you added also shut down whenever you turn the volume up? I responded on your Facebook thread. The first thing I would do is have someone look at the amp power light and see if it's going into protection mode while you turn up the volume. Also, what kind of amp did you put on your new REV 10's? Also, when you installed the new amp where did you get the signal from? Did you piggyback RCA cables off of the old amp or did you run new ones to the head unit?

 

[Julian]

This post has the wiring diagram I did to show how to easily take them out of series:

https://jetboaters.net/threads/2017-242x-stereo-upgrade.15296/post-273149

 

[Huntersales]

Low battery voltage will also cause this. Check your battery charge.

 

[Mohamed Z Sherif]

The rev10 were not tight all the way down on the tower and spun. In the process It cut the speaker wire and was shorting out the system. Disconnected that amp for now and all is working fine.

 

[JDRacing]

Glad you figured that out. Were you using the TC3 swivel clamps on your Rev 10's? And did that long locking Allen socket screw come loose, causing the speakers to spin?

The reason I'm asking is because I just used that same setup on a Rev 8 installation and noticed that that locking screw/wishbone locking bracket setup can be tricky to get secured properly. The clamp itself has a "stop" on it, which is supposed to keep it from spinning too far, but if that wishbone bracket/locking screw is not all the way secured, it can fool us into thinking it is locked down when it is not.

Curious if that is what happened to you?

Hopefully it's now just a matter of repairing the over-stressed speaker wire

Jeff

 

[Mohamed Z Sherif]

Glad you figured that out. Were you using the TC3 swivel clamps on your Rev 10's? And did that long locking Allen socket screw come loose, causing the speakers to spin?

The reason I'm asking is because I just used that same setup on a Rev 8 installation and noticed that that locking screw/wishbone locking bracket setup can be tricky to get secured properly. The clamp itself has a "stop" on it, which is supposed to keep it from spinning too far, but if that wishbone bracket/locking screw is not all the way secured, it can fool us into thinking it is locked down when it is not.

Curious if that is what happened to you?

Hopefully it's now just a matter of repairing the over-stressed speaker wire

Jeff

Yes those brackets but the speaker to the bracket didn’t spin. It’s the bracket on the tower that spun
They are mounted on the side of the tower so with waves their weight made them spin down. I’ll have to fix the wiring and probably tighten them more on the tower and possibly use loctit

 

[zipper]

Yes those brackets but the speaker to the bracket didn’t spin. It’s the bracket on the tower that spun
They are mounted on the side of the tower so with waves their weight made them spin down. I’ll have to fix the wiring and probably tighten them more on the tower and possibly use loctit

If you continue to have issues with the clamps moving, you might try putting a couple of "dabs" of a marine adhesive between the clamps and tower. Something not permanent, Lifecaulk or 3m-4000UV. The adhesive can come off with Debond or other similar adhesive removers if you need to remove them in the future.

 

[Mohamed Z Sherif]

If you continue to have issues with the clamps moving, you might try putting a couple of "dabs" of a marine adhesive between the clamps and tower. Something not permanent, Lifecaulk or 3m-4000UV. The adhesive can come off with Debond or other similar adhesive removers if you need to remove them in the future.

Not a bad ideal. Might just do that now so i don’t have an issue again

 

[JDRacing]

Yes those brackets but the speaker to the bracket didn’t spin. It’s the bracket on the tower that spun
They are mounted on the side of the tower so with waves their weight made them spin down. I’ll have to fix the wiring and probably tighten them more on the tower and possibly use loctit

Thank you for the explanation.

Edit: I was thinking about your post and I now remember that the Wet Sounds swivel clamps come with (I think) three choices for bolt lengths to secure the clamps to the tower, depending on the diameter of the tower tube. The instructions really didn't explain what all the different length bolts were for. But after initially using bolts that were too long, causing the clamp to be able to move on the tower, I tried the shorter bolts and that clamped it down much tighter. Is it possible you need to use the next shorter bolts to clamp the TC3 swivel clamps to the tower to keep it from spinning?

Jeff

 

[Mohamed Z Sherif]

Thank you for the explanation.

Edit: I was thinking about your post and I now remember that the Wet Sounds swivel clamps come with (I think) three choices for bolt lengths to secure the clamps to the tower, depending on the diameter of the tower tube. The instructions really didn't explain what all the different length bolts were for. But after initially using bolts that were too long, causing the clamp to be able to move on the tower, I tried the shorter bolts and that clamped it down much tighter. Is it possible you need to use the next shorter bolts to clamp the TC3 swivel clamps to the tower to keep it from spinning?

Jeff

No i clamped them down but not tight enough. I was worried about the powder coating and/or possibly stripping the bolt.
They were tight enough but waves got them loose.
Now I’ll tighten them a little more and use locktit on the bolt but also use some adhesive on the clamp to keep It from rotating as states above by another member.