Titanic claims more people

[Bottom Bracket]

Maybe a whale bit it.

 

[zipper]

Physics at school.

 

[adrianp89]

Great information. Even more disturbing.

 

[zipper]

Wreckage brought ashore..

 

[Thermobrett]

Wreckage brought ashore...skip the ad.

Other than the obvious that we all know of right now, it will be interesting to hear the final technical details. I’m sure this will take some time.

 

[BigN8]

Other than the obvious that we all know of right now, it will be interesting to hear the final technical details. I’m sure this will take some time.

A couple dumbassess used experimental and unproven tech to travel to one of the most extreme environments humans can go.....and it failed. Pretty much case closed.

 

[Thermobrett]

A couple dumbassess used experimental and unproven tech to travel to one of the most extreme environments humans can go.....and it failed. Pretty much case closed.

Are you saying this is a “case” of Natural Selection lol

 

[Ronnie]

Check out this story:

Families of dead migrants share anger over OceanGate rescue effort — and other world news you may have missed

The relatives of migrants who were on a boat that capsized in the Mediterranean Sea on June 14 expressed their frustration and disbelief at the millions of dollars spent trying to recover the OceanGate submersible, the Guardian reported.

news.yahoo.com

Briefly stated, when 5 rich people go missing at sea millions of dollars and international help were pledged towards immediate rescue and now recovery efforts. When a boat with 750 immigrants capsizes, little or no effort is expended to rescue them. Just another reminder, remedial lesson that life is not fair.

 

[Thermobrett]

Check out this story:

Families of dead migrants share anger over OceanGate rescue effort — and other world news you may have missed

The relatives of migrants who were on a boat that capsized in the Mediterranean Sea on June 14 expressed their frustration and disbelief at the millions of dollars spent trying to recover the OceanGate submersible, the Guardian reported.

news.yahoo.com

Briefly stated, when 5 rich people go missing at sea millions of dollars and international help were pledged towards immediate rescue and now recovery efforts. When a boat with 750 immigrants capsizes, little or no effort is expended to rescue them. Just another reminder, remedial lesson that life is not fair.

Saw that pop up this morning… sad…

 

[Bluewater272]

Perhaps there's a difference in rescue efforts when a bunch of people are missing in the near-shore waters of a country with competent and abundant search and rescue services available, and a vessel at the bottom of the ocean where specialized equipment and efforts are needed and there was a chance they'd still be alive.

Or, should the research vessels and submersibles dispatched to the Titanic been sent to Greece instead (and if so, to do what)?

 

[Ronnie]

Perhaps there's a difference in rescue efforts when a bunch of people are missing in the near-shore waters of a country with competent and abundant search and rescue services available, and a vessel at the bottom of the ocean where specialized equipment and efforts are needed and there was a chance they'd still be alive.

Or, should the research vessels and submersibles dispatched to the Titanic been sent to Greece instead (and if so, to do what)?

At the time I read the article yesterday morning 500 of the 750 onboard were still missing, well over a week after their boat capsized. Regardless of where the help was needed or available it was only provided to th small group of wealthy and now I note primarily Caucasian people, by analogy the one percenters.

As for what could the rescuers do if they went to to the scene, Pulling people dead or alive out of the water seems like a good start. Maybe if they all signed waivers accepting the risk and that they may/will not be rescued I wouldn’t feel bad for them but I doubt it. I still feel bad for the Titan crew/guests, they signed releases yet still got the benefit of logistically and technically complex rescue and recovery efforts. If they had to pay for the efforts even if unsuccessful might feel better about it. That is you get what you pay for but again I doubt it.

 

[anmut]

Check out this story:

Families of dead migrants share anger over OceanGate rescue effort — and other world news you may have missed

The relatives of migrants who were on a boat that capsized in the Mediterranean Sea on June 14 expressed their frustration and disbelief at the millions of dollars spent trying to recover the OceanGate submersible, the Guardian reported.

news.yahoo.com

Briefly stated, when 5 rich people go missing at sea millions of dollars and international help were pledged towards immediate rescue and now recovery efforts. When a boat with 750 immigrants capsizes, little or no effort is expended to rescue them. Just another reminder, remedial lesson that life is not fair.

Tell me you read twitter memes without telling me you read twitter memes...

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

Check out this story:

Families of dead migrants share anger over OceanGate rescue effort — and other world news you may have missed

The relatives of migrants who were on a boat that capsized in the Mediterranean Sea on June 14 expressed their frustration and disbelief at the millions of dollars spent trying to recover the OceanGate submersible, the Guardian reported.

news.yahoo.com

Briefly stated, when 5 rich people go missing at sea millions of dollars and international help were pledged towards immediate rescue and now recovery efforts. When a boat with 750 immigrants capsizes, little or no effort is expended to rescue them. Just another reminder, remedial lesson that life is not fair.

At the time I read the article yesterday morning 500 of the 750 onboard were still missing. Regardless of where the help was needed or available it was only provided to wealthy and now I note primarily Caucasian group of people. As for what could the rescuers do if they went to to the seen, Pulling people dead or alive out of the water seems like a good start.

Thats an interesting take on the matter Ronnie.

 

[Ronnie]

Tell me you read twitter memes without telling me you read twitter memes...

I didn’t read any twitter memes.

 

[anmut]

I didn’t read any twitter memes.

Then you read the meme on some platform, because that's been the calling card of the colored hair, fish faced, perpetually offended children and their gods for the last two weeks...

 

[Bluewater272]

At the time I read the article yesterday morning 500 of the 750 onboard were still missing, well over a week after their boat capsized. Regardless of where the help was needed or available it was only provided to th small group of wealthy and now I note primarily Caucasian people, by analogy the one percenters.

As for what could the rescuers do if they went to to the scene, Pulling people dead or alive out of the water seems like a good start. Maybe if they all signed waivers accepting the risk and that they may/will not be rescued I wouldn’t feel bad for them but I doubt it. I still feel bad for the Titan crew/guests, they signed releases yet still got the benefit of logistically and technically complex rescue and recovery efforts. If they had to pay for the efforts even if unsuccessful might feel better about it. That is you get what you pay for but again I doubt it.

The point I'm making, is that these aren't the same resources. All the people with boats and planes around that area could have gone to help, and didn't (they didn't go help the sub search, either). We're not sending the coast guard from Maine to Greece. Were there extensive efforts made for Ocean Gate? Yeah, but it came from a small community with highly specialized equipment that could only be used for that task. No resource was spent on Oceangate that would, or even could, have been used for the migrants.

Honestly, - who cares about the bill? I know you don't actually care, you're just using it to make a point. Same reason why you wouldn't care about the coast guard bill if you had to hit your EPIRB on the way to bimini. The *only* people to be mad at for the loss of migrants (besides whoever overcrowded the boat and sent them), are the governments of the waters where the boat was lost. There is no need to bemoan the efforts at the Titanic because Greece (who may have contributed to the capsizing in the first place) didn't pull all the stops for the rescue.

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

This article from Associated Press paints a different picture of the incident. It clearly shows the Greek Coast Guard and the government were actively trying to support the occupants of the ship, who, rebuffed any assistance other than food and water, and were on the scene helping right away when the ship capsized. From the searches I’ve done it appears the Greeks are Caucasian.

At least 79 dead after overcrowded migrant vessel sinks off Greece; hundreds may be missing

An overcrowded fishing boat carrying migrants capsized and sank off the coast of Greece, leaving at least 79 people dead and many more missing in one of the worst disasters of its kind this year.

apnews.com

 

[Bluewater272]

Some different viewpoints here, too: E.U. Border Agency Considers Pulling Out of Greece Over Migrant Abuses

I think it's safe to say that Greece is a questionable destination for illegal immigration.

 

[fatboyroy]

I was a little pissed too cause of the dollar spent on the recovery etc (knowing they already gone). But if you think about it, they probably does this as an exercise (live training) so if a Navy sub happens to have problem, they can somehow learn from this search/recovery effort. They dont get this call often so its an opportunity to test capabilities.

 

[adrianp89]

This thread is getting fun now...