Yamaha Marine Grease A-What is compatible-replaceable?

[justason]

So I ran out of grease and went to Advance Auto and all they have there is Lucas Oil Marine Grease NLGI#2 which is a Litium Complex grease.

I think the Yamaha Grease A is an aluminum complex grease, and based on the following chart:

http://www.mobilindustrial.com/ind/english/files/tt-grease-compatibility.pdf

It says these are incompatible.....

We got a grease expert here? Or will I have to order some Yamaha A and wait for it to ship here (now that I have the hoses off the pumps and was going to clean them out!)

Hi @Julian I've been burning time this morning looking into this I found a chart that conflicts with your first link.....I think I'll simply order yamaha A,
like glassman says, cheap/insurance.
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Outboard-Marine-Cartridge-ACC-GREAS-14-CT/dp/B004K9FT8K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1399046698&sr=8-1&keywords=yamaha+marine+grease

source: http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/1865/grease-compatibility

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[txav8r]

According to everything I can find, and to what glassman posted, Yamaha grease "A" is their plain Yamaha Marine Grease. I bought a squeeze tube and a gun cartridge of the stuff. It clings and remains on the linkage connectors for steering and reverse gate better than anything else I have used. It also has high temp capability, is 100% waterproof, and won't melt even as quick as some of the "wheel bearing greases" do. So I use it in everything pretty much from intermediate housing to general linkage lube and my wheel bearings too. One grease in the gun, and no need to clean it to change between them. The tube I buy, same stuff, but having a tube with a cap makes lubing the linkages easier than messing with the gun. Just bought two new yesterday at boat delivery...cause I gave my supply to Danny and Cheryl when I sold the Dawg to them. Although, I think I had just run out of the tube in the gun, so he had to get his own there...sorry Danny!

 

[Glassman]

Hey Mel @txav8r...take a look at this and tell me what you think.

http://www.amazon.com/Aluminum-Complex-Grease-Cartridge-Oz/dp/B00GDGALHW/ref=sr_1_21?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1399054752&sr=1-21&keywords=grease cartridge 14 oz

 

[waterboy]

You guys got me to thinking, I just repacked my wheel bearings this weekend. I used some blue grease that I have had a stock on for a number of years. Found this chart on the internet, it is a calcium sulfonate grease, rated for outdoor/water use. The other grease I have is an aluminum based grease. Guess I better not mix them... Got me wondering too about what I might be mixing in the tube going to the shaft bearing too...

 

[Julian]

Hi @Julian I've been burning time this morning looking into this I found a chart that conflicts with your first link.....I think I'll simply order yamaha A,
like glassman says, cheap/insurance.
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Outboard-Marine-Cartridge-ACC-GREAS-14-CT/dp/B004K9FT8K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1399046698&sr=8-1&keywords=yamaha marine grease

source: http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/1865/grease-compatibility

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@justason that chart is exactly the same as the one I linked to, and why I posted the original question. Looks like what you get in auto parts stores (lithium base) is incompatible with Aluminum based. Turns out I've been using lithium based for years....so I've already mixed and probably used all the aluminum base up....so no point in switching back unless I replace the bearings!

 

[txav8r]

Don't you wish Yamaha would just say what their stuff is? I do.

 

[justason]

Don't you wish Yamaha would just say what their stuff is? I do.

O hell yes mel !!!! Then again their marketing is working. Instead of guessing or risking it i just amazon'd
Yamaha ring free.as well as Yamaha grease A in cartridge and squeeze tube. One and done.
I'm surprised they dont make special left handed spark plugs!!

 

[bprender]

@txav8r Mel. Did u buy the grease from Phil dill? I also would like to buy the gun type and the tube type. Thanks

 

[txav8r]

@bprender , they have it! And I have bought it from them for the old boat several times. But...I was able to buy my supplies to start off at a discount with the new boat purchase, so I bought 2 gun tubes and a squeeze tube of Grease A from Dick Lane's of Grand Lake. I think I mentioned this, but Grease A is suitable for use in the wheel bearings, even though that isn't it's primary purpose (marketing), so rather than use two different grease guns, I use ONE AND DONE too! It covers all linkages, bearing buddies, and intermediate bearing. What are you guys using on the throttle linkages in the engine compartment? I used a spray lube I got from Phil Dill, but I sent all that stuff with the Dawg to California, and I can't remember what it was. I try to stay away from that white lithium stuff, it makes a mess.

 

[Big_D]

I know this is thread is a little old, but found some info on the Yamaha grease that might be helpful. I've been pulling my hair out trying to find something locally to use on the bearing housing. It appears that the Yamaha is in fact an aluminum complex, at least that's what the MSDS shows (if I've got the right part number). Here's a link, it's on the last page:

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The only thing I've found local is Evinrude Triple Guard from our one marine store here in town. But, after doing some digging on it, it appears to be BelRay in Evinrude packaging. I'm going to pull the hoses like Julian mentioned and see what's in there now.




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[Big Shasta]

What are you guys using on the throttle linkages in the engine compartment? I used a spray lube I got from Phil Dill, but I sent all that stuff with the Dawg to California, and I can't remember what it was. I try to stay away from that white lithium stuff, it makes a mess.

Or this if it's in an area that I don't want spray all over.

Got both of them at Lowes.

 

[mrmeaniemeateaterman]

This forum is a blessing and a curse. Last week I realize I didn't grease main bearing when I did first service, so I make sure to add grease before outing. Then I see this and I think, "oh shit, did I add the wrong grease?!?!"

My new rule: only Yamaha crap goes in Yamaha boat. May pay a few dollars more, but don't have to worry about the technical details of whether or not Product A plays well with Product C. I burnt $70 dollars worth of gas Sunday, who cares if the tube of grease cost $5 more. Does Yamaha sell special water to flush the engines? Maybe I need to buy that too!

Oh well my SeaDek showed up last night so at least my interior will look good.

 

[Big_D]

This forum is a blessing and a curse.

Lol... I know exactly how you feel! I'm still up in the air on this whole grease thing. I haven't opened the tube of Evinrude up yet because I still can't verify that Yamaha A is an aluminum complex grease. The fittings on my boat have residue of what appears to be the same stuff Julian shows in his first post. I also read on a fishing reel forum that Yamaha A is white, not blue.

I so wish I had a dealer close, then I'd have them show me the correct part number and MSDS for the "A" grease. Like Julian also posted though, I'm waaaayy over thinking this!



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[Evildwarf]

I agree with the "Yamaha products only" and only use yamaha branded lubes etc on my boat. This is not because I believe they are any better than other products, only that this way there is not a lot of guesswork about what fluids etc are compatible or are designed for our boats. Definitely a little more expensive (oil filters a lot more expensive!) but no stress over which products to choose. Mechanical DIY stuff is already a challenge for me so this makes it a little easier to work on my boat. Stabil Marine fuel treatment is the exception to this rule.
I learned a long time ago the right tools for the job are also key to success.

 

[txav8r]

I agree with the "Yamaha products only" and only use yamaha branded lubes etc on my boat. This is not because I believe they are any better than other products, only that this way there is not a lot of guesswork about what fluids etc are compatible or are designed for our boats. Definitely a little more expensive (oil filters a lot more expensive!) but no stress over which products to choose. Mechanical DIY stuff is already a challenge for me so this makes it a little easier to work on my boat. Stabil Marine fuel treatment is the exception to this rule.
I learned a long time ago the right tools for the job are also key to success.

I am pretty much along these lines too. I don't mind a few dollars more for what I know will be as good or best, especially with the mixing idea. You mention the cost of the oil filters. Yep, they are pricy! But they are probably twice as good a filter as any filter from an auto parts store. We have had this debate for years on the forum, and Yamaha makes this filter, and it is a fleece filter that has hundreds of times the capacity to hold particles and down to a much smaller size that typical paper filters. I will post up some comparisons that a Yamaha tech did on Green hulk.

 

[jetboater4life]

I'm also a Yamaha products for a Yamaha boat guy. I buy the Yamaha spec'd Oil change kit for each engine. Price is about $40 for each, and comes with everything I need. I also purchased the Yamaha recommended grease products. It may cost a little more than a grease that could be just as good, but for piece of mind and something I'm likely to never run out of, my money is on what the tech manual says.

 

[Geiger41]

Anyone have a good grease gun recommendation ? I have 1 tube of each type of the yamaha brand grease

 

[ToddW850]

Anyone have a good grease gun recommendation ? I have 1 tube of each type of the yamaha brand grease

Not even sure of the brand but I picked mine up at Walmart. Not the best ever made, but gets the job done.

 

[Kevin G. Burns]

I'm also a Yamaha products for a Yamaha boat guy. I buy the Yamaha spec'd Oil change kit for each engine. Price is about $40 for each, and comes with everything I need. I also purchased the Yamaha recommended grease products. It may cost a little more than a grease that could be just as good, but for piece of mind and something I'm likely to never run out of, my money is on what the tech manual says.

Where did you buy the oil change kit for $40 also did you get the grease from there also. Just got a 2007 sx230 Thanks

 

[haknslash]

Where did you buy the oil change kit for $40 also did you get the grease from there also. Just got a 2007 sx230 Thanks

I get mine from partzilla for $37. Cheapest place I've found and always super fast shipping.