Bow seat backrest hinge mod

[Julian]

@Eric Ballard Perhaps mount the magnets where the holes are?

Also, I assume you didn't go for a side hinge as I notice that the cushion isn't a straight line on the gunnel side?

 

[Eric Ballard]

I also got some magnets to cover the bolt holes coming tomorrow too.

 

[cozilla]

I lined my storage compartments and it has been nice not tearing up my fingers with getting stuff in and out. Nice mod!

 

[Eric Ballard]

@Eric Ballard Perhaps mount the magnets where the holes are?

Also, I assume you didn't go for a side hinge as I notice that the cushion isn't a straight line on the gunnel side?

Yep, I got 1.26" diameter magnets that will go over the bolt holes and washers on the backrest. I'm also looking at gas struts as a bonus.

All will be installed tomorrow!

 

[Eric Ballard]

@Eric Ballard Perhaps mount the magnets where the holes are?

Also, I assume you didn't go for a side hinge as I notice that the cushion isn't a straight line on the gunnel side?

Yes, the gunwale side of the backrest is not flat and is a weird angle. Also, this way allows the backrest to open more too I think.

 

[haknslash]

Something lower profile than a gas strut could be torsion springs. How heavy is the seat back?

I wish the damn glove box had these instead of the funky Yamaha kung fu spring.

 

[Eric Ballard]

One thing I've always wanted to do was line all the storage compartment openings with vinyl edging to save from those rough edges or raw fiberglass cuts. With your backrest mod I can see myself using that area a lot for trash can and such so this would be a nice way to finish it off for a clean look and protection. https://www.wholesalemarine.com/beckson-vinyl-edge-trim-trim-mate-17929.html?gclid=CIfhn5zkqdQCFYg6gQod6u4AZw

I like the idea of using the TrimLok on the other openings. I got 25 feet so I have some extra to play with.

 

[Bennie]

Yep, I got 1.26" diameter magnets that will go over the bolt holes and washers on the backrest. I'm also looking at gas struts as a bonus.

All will be installed tomorrow!

@blacksapphirez put in a gas strut on his anchor locker, but I'm quite sure the parts list would work for your application as well.

 

[Rob9550]

https://www.amazon.com/Southco-C3-Snap-Grabber-Thickness/dp/B010O4X24W/ref=sr_1_74?ie=UTF8&qid=1496800590&sr=8-74&keywords=southco+latches

These are what holds the rear wet storage on the 240 series. I had one break and found them on Amazon.

 

[Eric Ballard]

Success, I'm 90% done. Just need to fill some screw holes, finalize the Trim-Lok and tweak the magnet system. I thought the magnets were too strong so I submerged some metal washers in epoxy, but I need bigger washers or less epoxy over the washers. The washers should be a fairly easy fix. I like the magnets and the whole thing turned out great. Trim-Lok is great, but hard to cut and I could not get it around the one magnet Like I wanted to, but I will find a better way to trim it to fit better. The trash can fits great in there, just need to find a way to secure it better.

 

[zelone]

awesome idea!

 

[Av8tor07]

Success, I'm 90% done. Just need to fill some screw holes, finalize the Trim-Lok and tweak the magnet system. I thought the magnets were too strong so I submerged some metal washers in epoxy, but I need bigger washers or less epoxy over the washers. The washers should be a fairly easy fix. I like the magnets and the whole thing turned out great. Trim-Lok is great, but hard to cut and I could not get it around the one magnet Like I wanted to, but I will find a better way to trim it to fit better. The trash can fits great in there, just need to find a way to secure it better.

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I really like your mod. I have a 212x, it has lots of room in that area but really no good way to access it. Taking the cushion off fully is a pita. Can you post links to the parts that you used? I'm try to get this done, thanks.

 

[Eric Ballard]

Parts List

Hinges
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/sea-dog--stainless-steel-short-side-door-hinge-1-1-2-x-2-7-8-10-fastener--14473433?recordNum=4

Trim-Lok for fiberglass edge
https://www.amazon.com/Trim-Lok-Aluminum-Textured-Finish-Gripping/dp/B01CJRHZ7W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496931433&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=trim-lok&th=1

Magnets (note stainless steel is not magnetic so the washers need to be regular steel, but screws can be SS).
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C5KKU7K?psc=1

 

[haknslash]

Any tips you used to determine the location and height of where to drill and mount the hinges so that when you close the seat down it lines up like stock?

 

[Av8tor07]

What he wrote. That was going to be my next question, thanks.

 

[Eric Ballard]

Any tips you used to determine the location and height of where to drill and mount the hinges so that when you close the seat down it lines up like stock?

Yes, sorry. I located where I wanted the hinges to fall on the seat back and screwed them in. You will want the hinge to be as close to the seat back piping edge as possible to all as much travel as possible.

I put then used double sided Command Strip squares on the large 3 hole side of the hinges. I then placed the seat back in place using the preexisting bolts to get the seat back into the right spot (I cut the bolt lengths shorter with a hacksaw so the seat back could open on the hinges). I then pushed real hard to get the Command Strips to hold and opened the seat back on the hinges and marked the holes. I pre-drilled and locked it down.

Word of warning, the bolts are obviously smaller than the whole they go into so make sure the seat back is where it belongs. Use the port side seat back as a guide. I think mine is a little bit crooked, but I think only I will notice it.

If I missed something let me know.

 

[Eric Ballard]

This is what the hinges look like from above to help with how hight they need to go on the cushion.

 

[Av8tor07]

Yes, sorry. I located where I wanted the hinges to fall on the seat back and screwed them in. You will want the hinge to be as close to the seat back piping edge as possible to all as much travel as possible.

I put then used double sided Command Strip squares on the large 3 hole side of the hinges. I then placed the seat back in place using the preexisting bolts to get the seat back into the right spot (I cut the bolt lengths shorter with a hacksaw so the seat back could open on the hinges). I then pushed real hard to get the Command Strips to hold and opened the seat back on the hinges and marked the holes. I pre-drilled and locked it down.

Word of warning, the bolts are obviously smaller than the whole they go into so make sure the seat back is where it belongs. Use the port side seat back as a guide. I think mine is a little bit crooked, but I think only I will notice it.

If I missed something let me know.

Thanks for the help.

 

[thepiratemorgan]

I know this is a question on an old thread, but curious if anyone has tried this mod on 2015 / 2016 192 series boats with the updated interior trim? The seat cushions are taller than previous 192's and 190's, to the point that it may interfere with completely opening the cushion as it relates to the vertical edge of the decking near the windshield behind the cushion. The mod shows short throw hinges and they're already placed as close to the edge of the back of the cushion as possible. I am waiting for ice out up here in Central NY so I can test drive and bring home a 2015 SX192, so I don't have a way to evaluate at this time but am interested in this mod. Thanks in advance for any and all replies!

 

[Shannon]

@Eric Ballard Just seeing this post. Man this is awesome and I hope to do the mod. So will will be reaching out with questions.. So I will apologize now as I am not as crafty as you!! See you in 2 weeks at Kerr.