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Yeah truck prices are always absurd, but right now even more so. My local dealer isn't marking up their trucks, but doesn't appear they're haggling as much as they used to. Before all this madness you could walk into a dealer and get 10k off without even negotiating. If you pressed them you could get 12-14k off MSRP for about a max. It would take a good bit of back and forth, but definitely doable. I managed to snag mine last year before everything went nutso. Mine was a CPO. I like the extended drivetrain warranty.
Yeah truck prices are always absurd, but right now even more so. My local dealer isn't marking up their trucks, but doesn't appear they're haggling as much as they used to. Before all this madness you could walk into a dealer and get 10k off without even negotiating. If you pressed them you could get 12-14k off MSRP for about a max. It would take a good bit of back and forth, but definitely doable. I managed to snag mine last year before everything went nutso. Mine was a CPO. I like the extended drivetrain warranty.
It’s a horrible time to buy anything. Wait until the minimum wage gets jacked up to $15.00 per hour. A happy meal will be $20.00, a steak at Outback will be about $60.00, and we’ll all be begging for someone to buy our little boats that cost $250.00 per fill up.
Not really. It has quite a bit of rake stock, so it levels it out pretty good. I was surprised even with towing small excavators, which are close to 11k lbs with trailer, it didn't appear to go more than perfectly level with the front. There won't be any need for airbags with the maxtow and high payload capacity with a yamaha boat.
Towing 688 miles with my Suburban, averaged 12.2 mpg. The 5.3 did well, however I still miss my ECOBOOST. The 5.3 and the 3.5 Twin Turbo are not even in the same league. Maybe Ford will bring back the Excursion, I could even use more room then the Suburban has to offer. Hand over face!
Towing 688 miles with my Suburban, averaged 12.2 mpg. The 5.3 did well, however I still miss my ECOBOOST. The 5.3 and the 3.5 Twin Turbo are not even in the same league. Maybe Ford will bring back the Excursion, I could even use more room then the Suburban has to offer. Hand over face!
The new Suburban is basically the same size as the excursion was.
I don't see Ford bringing back the Excursion. They seem to care more about what EPA regulators with short sight care about more than what consumers want to buy.
Quick report back on the road trip to FL with the 3.0T in the Audi. @Julian you might be interested in this.
Instrument panel in the Audi reported 13.3 towing from IN to FL. Reported 14.4mpg towing from FL to IN. Google maps shows the drive at 641mi one way. Trip is essentially straight down I-65 from Louisville, KY into AL, where we then hop onto back state and county highways for the last 100mi or so.
I was with a group and running a bit faster than I liked on the trip down. Often in the 80-85mph range. Audi didn't seem to care aside from being thirsty. All tires and bearings were under 110degF as measured at each gas stop with an IR gun. Other vehicles were an F250 with a 20ft Tracker behind it, and a 13 passenger Transit fan (only 6 people inside, but lots of gear). Had 3 adults and two kids in the Audi, as well as the rear hatch full of luggage. Covered AR190 in tow, and essentially being used as a small cargo trailer with lots of food/gear/stuff for the beach in there.
Drive home I took it a little easier. Usually hanging out around 70-75mph on the expressway. Took us right at 11hrs door to door with food/fuel/rest/traffic stops (I screwed up and hit Nashville at rush hour).
Here's the ACTUAL data. Appears the instrument panel is a little optimistic on fuel economy compared to hand calc'd numbers. Red is the trip home, blue is the trip there.
You can see the last 3 tanks where I was commuting around town before the tow down were in the 20's by hand. I have a bit of a lead foot, so I could probably squeak those into the mid 20's if I calmed the hell down
I don’t own a F-150 ecoboost, I own a F-350 6.7 L diesel but the basic concept is the same between the the two. here’s a couple of suggestions to help improve efficiency.
-Unless accelerating hard to merge onto to highway, make your throttle increases small and allow the torque to increase the speed.
-Keep the rpm’s low and allow the turbos to build boost, the torque thing again.
-Use the cruise control to maintain a more steady throttle opening.
-Use the tow/haul function.
-Keep tires at max cold inflation.
-Use fuel / octane rating that the manual states.
-Keep Highway speed at 65 mph.
-Use the dash mileage computer to watch the fuel consumption in real-time to find the best cruise setting for your conditions.
-Using the AC uses a lot less fuel than driving with the windows down.
-Be sure your air cleaner and mass air flow sensor are clean.
-Run the specified amount of a fuel system cleaner like Techron every fourth / fifth tank of fuel.
Something to think about, are you towing with the cover on? with the windshield closed?
i get 14mpg in my 2014 3.5 Ecoboost. (towing in town, no highway).
I get 17 mpg daily driving (city traffic)
When I used to tow an hour each way, i'd get 8 or 9 mpg. But also had a lot more open highway involved.
Always cover off, windshield open. (less to stop the air flow).
it's also 93 octane tuned by 5 Star performance. (performance tow version is what I run). Best decision i ever made for the truck.
I have a 2019 F150 2.7 Ecoboost Crew cab, 4x4 and 3.55 rear end. Just returned from the Gulf Coast Meet Up and averaged 13.2 mpg from Indy to Panama city and back. Cruise control was set at 70 for most of the trip. Gotta say I'm really impressed with the truck. No effort maintaining speed or passing slower vehicles, even in the mountains of Tennessee.
