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Just bought '25 AR 190. Need advice

gofrogs7

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New to the website. Wife and I just bought a 2025 AR 190. I've been around Ranger for fishing and Hurricanes for decks so this will be my first Yamaha jetboat. Looking for any ways to make my ride better and more practical/enjoyable.

I've been told to get Cobra Fins, but that is about it. Looking for any advice or info on the boat/others experiences. Thanks!
 
Best advice, give yourself some time with it stock and away from crowds if at all possible. Then if and when you do any upgrades, you will appreciate what they are actually doing. You may find that stock is all you need.

Have fun.
 
Take it out stock first and play with it. They're very nimble without fins once you get to know the machine. When we first got our boat, one of the best pieces of advice I got was to throw a life jacket in the water and practice maneuvering around it.

Regarding the fins - that's like Chevy vs. Ford. Either one will be an improvement over stock, and both have their pros/cons. I have the Cobras but know many people who are happy with the product and after-sale service on the Thrusters.
 
New to the website. Wife and I just bought a 2025 AR 190. I've been around Ranger for fishing and Hurricanes for decks so this will be my first Yamaha jetboat. Looking for any ways to make my ride better and more practical/enjoyable.

I've been told to get Cobra Fins, but that is about it. Looking for any advice or info on the boat/others experiences. Thanks!
Lateral Thruster is a game changer. I held off for several years before getting it on my 195 and it makes maneuvering around tight spaces a BREEZE.
 
I think you'll get a ton of recommendations to try the boat for a while without the aftermarket mods, and it's reasonable advice. I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. There seem to be very few people who've added the fins and regretted it. If it's available, and widely accepted as positive, I didn't see a reason to wait. I can navigate circles around other boats, even though i didn't learn to operate mine without the Cobra Jet system first.

probably no wrong answer on this one.
 
I think you'll get a ton of recommendations to try the boat for a while without the aftermarket mods, and it's reasonable advice. I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. There seem to be very few people who've added the fins and regretted it. If it's available, and widely accepted as positive, I didn't see a reason to wait. I can navigate circles around other boats, even though i didn't learn to operate mine without the Cobra Jet system first.

probably no wrong answer on this one.
My fav is 180 turns within a few feet of the boat's length at the dock... the stares are priceless!
 
Appreciate the advice. Sounds like I can't go wrong with either one. Any chance they were easy to install?
 
New to the website. Wife and I just bought a 2025 AR 190. I've been around Ranger for fishing and Hurricanes for decks so this will be my first Yamaha jetboat. Looking for any ways to make my ride better and more practical/enjoyable.

I've been told to get Cobra Fins, but that is about it. Looking for any advice or info on the boat/others experiences. Thanks!

Read Your owners manual, especially the part about No Wake Mode and the TDE (thrust directional enhancer) position of the throttle. The TDE position is the first detent in the throttle as you push it forward, this was Yamahas design to enhance low speed maneuvering, it partially opens the bucket directing thrust backwards as well as down and to the sides. By employing the No Wake mode, three positions up in idle speed incrementally, you increase the thrust and this makes the the turning response brisk, especially at no wake level three.

The No Wake is also handy around the dock as it keeps engine idle speed / thrust increased so when you go from neutral to forward / reverse you’ve got more power / thrust to give little shots of thrust to overcome wind or current.

I’ve personally found that the TDE and no wake are all I need, but others like the aftermarket steering devices. As a couple have said in this thread go out and practice and get used to it. You don’t have the outdrive sticking down in the water so you’ll have to adapt to the skidding around at low thrust levels.
 
@gofrogs7

Personal opinion here - You don't need fins/vectors/aides to drive the boat well. What you need is practice. This will be our 9th season with our '17 AR190. It took us about half the first season to "figure it out", but now that we have, I don't want to go back. My wife is good enough now that she will back the boat off the trailer, I go park, and when I get to the courtesy dock she spins 180deg and backs up to the end of it. I literally walk off the dock onto the swim platform like I'm effing Jack Sparrow and we motor away without any muss or fuss. Get a LOT of envious looks when we do that.

So, in that vein, here comes a novel :D

A jet boat drives differently than an outboard, that drives different than a pontoon, that drives different than an inboard. You wouldn't hop on a motorcycle and say "I really need a steering wheel on this thing" without learning how to operate it would you? Same premise here, the jet isn't bad, it's just different. Once you get used to the differences, you might find that it's better.

Looks like you've been around boats for some time, so there are some things that are much different than a traditional propped boat.

First, you can "shift gears" as often as you like. There is no transmission to be harmed, just a cable and a "bucket" that directs thrust fore and aft. Use this to your advantage around docks. Add or kill momentum with thrust and shifting in/out of forward and reverse. Shift early, shift often, it's easy and doesn't hurt anything.

Second, no revs = no thrust. No thrust = no control. Prop boats can "idle" and maintain control, jets don't. You'll want to learn to either use NoWakeMode to keep the revs up and then shift a lot, OR, get used to short bursts of power/thrust to add/kill momentum. Combine this with direction control and you start to see the premise of controlling a jet as opposed to a prop boat. You can leave it in high revs and shift often, or just let it sit there in "neutral" for as long as you want. These engines don't care a bit to spin high rpms for hours on end, 3k rpm for 15min while docking is NOTHING. Sounds silly, but don't be afraid of it.

Finally, at low speeds you have to change your mindset a little. You don't "steer the front" like a car, or more traditional boat. It's closer to "slide the back". Think of coming into a dock, you come in at a 45deg angle, then when you get close kill momentum with reverse and "slide" the stern over to the dock. Don't try to steer up along side it, get close then slow and slide. Same around other boats, or when trailering. Without a large vertical surface in the water, the boat pivots around the center of mass, not the center of submerged surface area. Keep that in mind and you'll find you can park this boat in places you can only dream of parking an I/O. Tiny little spaces where other boats can maneuver into, you can pull up and slide the boat into place.

Also, I recommend this to any new boaters (or experienced boaters with a new boat). Take a random weekday this spring and go "practice" at the ramp, at the dock, and out in the water. On/Off the trailer 5-10 times until you and your partner have a method and routine down pat. Throw a fender out in the water and practice pulling up to it, practice backing up to it, use it as a marker to pull along side. It's worth the half a tank of fuel, and a day on the water to just practice. Leave the kids, the dog, the office, and spectators behind and have just a day to get to know the machine and how it acts. Figure out where to store things, and how they're easily reachable. All of this practice makes it routine when you're distracted by teenagers with loud music, the dog barking at fish, and the dock hands yelling to you when you try to refuel on a busy weekend afternoon, or load the boat with spectators on a holiday weekend. It's worth it, I promise.

Good luck!
 
Ok so first when you try your boat stock make a high speed turn and see how it slows down considerably in the turn sucks for watersport activities.
Next make a turn on plane and slow the throttle down in the turn and watch as you loose complete control of the boat. TYhat sucks if you are retrieving a water sport person from the water and you end up running them over!
Cobra addresses the loss of steering if you rapidly decelerate in a turn.
Next, Do not mess with the factory angled thrust on any Yamaha jet boat with the 2019 and newer nozzles , Yamaha already has angled thrust built in and NOT opposing thrust as that would just cancel each other out.
Next is the bow hop in rough water the deluxe system has a plaining surface to reduce that and get the bow up on plane faster.
The stock boat will not be be enjoyed at all speeds on a level even close to having the super ultimate ak-19 deluxe system on it and for only $268.99 with free domestic shipping. As well as adjustments and tempered aluminum fins that do not increase the draft of the boat plus the admiral will love driving the boat and so will guest operators &no risk 30 day money back guarantee from the innovator of aftermarket jet boat steering now in my 24th year of making jet boats steer and drivers smile. So do your research .
And then enjoy your boat as you intended to do when you purchased it.
Also if you own a P W C I have steering for those that will rock your world and not throw you off either plus maintain steering without thrust.
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