Wake Surf Shaper

[PaulyB]

Any one ever seen one of these? A local watersports store just put an ad on Facebook for it and I saw it. Looks pretty good on a dedicated wake boat, but I dont know how well it would do on a jet boat....

 

[RightStuff]

Very curious...

 

[octavio3311]

Hmm! That looks very interesting.

 

[Julian]

They definitely need to work on their website!

 

[PaulyB]

They told me they will have one in stock soon and they will let me test it out... Ill try to keep this updated.... I guess I better start looking for ballast....

 

[Julian]

Looks like it velcros to the side of the boat.....yes?

 

[PaulyB]

That's what it looks like, I'm not 100 percent sure. Ronix seems the be the company that is producing them, I feel like it should be a quality product...

 

[Shuck Water]

Any indication on price?

 

[RightStuff]

From what I saw online last night, my guess is this is/was something that someone has made and was selling, but now Ronix has bought the rights (or is making a copy) of the same device? Here's a site I found (this must be the one @Julian is referring to above?): http://www.wakesurfshaper.com

There is something called a Wake Shaper, but it's a different type of device, basically a Surf Gate type device (http://wake-shaper.com)

Hopefully Ronix will get some more details out there soon, but really interested in what you find out @PaulyB!

 

[jetboater4life]

My friend has a CNC machine so I might test this concept out to see if it makes a difference.

 

[jcyamaharider]

Convergence system.......you will still have jet wash. Would be fun to try it on the boat though.

 

[njmr2fan]

Easy enough to make one. Take a foam block, lay down some fiberglass mat on top and seal it up, sand it paint it and velcro it onto your boat. I guess for the cost of the mat and foam you can make all kinds of lengths too to see what changes.

 

[wschmidt05]

Unfortunately won't work on our boats. I already tried a delayed convergence system, and the jets cancel everything out. Bummer.

Best of luck if you try it out though.

 

[Ziess21]

Can you elaborate on how it cancels everything out? Did you try multiple ballast setups? Any pics or video?

 

[trace]

I tried delayed convergence on my previous Yamaha and ended up with the same independent results that @wschmidt05 did. Basically the way delayed convergence works is to axially (fore-aft direction) offset the wakes coming off the back of the boat, the wake shifted back on one side allows the wake nearer the boat to roll over the other one forming a single sided wave. On the twin engine jet boats the high pressure water from the jet pumps is at just the right height to prevent the nearer wake from rolling over the farther wake (the high pressure water acts like a wall) and forming the wave. When I played with it, you could visibly see the wake formation on the device side move aft away from the boat, but the 2 wakes couldn't interact until after the jet wash and by then it was wide enough it wouldn't form a wave.

 

[RiverRat]

Do you think the same would happen on a single then @trace ?

 

[swatski]

Do you think the same would happen on a single then @trace ?

x2 on that

 

[wschmidt05]

I imagine it would be the same for a single jet as well. The prop on a direct drive or v-drive is far enough below the waterline to not interfere with a delayed convergence system. The jets are too close to the surface. @trace, any thoughts here?

 

[jcyamaharider]

It would have a better chance on a single jet engine boat but still hard to overcome the jet wash.

 

[trace]

I agree with @wschmidt05 and @jcyamaharider , it is more likely to work with a single as opposed to a twin, but the jet wash pressure is still high, which is what is preventing the convergence even if the wake is delayed. On inboards the wakes come together and the prop rooster surfaces aft of that convergence which is why it works. If anybody with a single wanted to try it cheap, the guys over at malibu crew were doing something like the ronix version on the cheap before ronix. Parts to diy it are like $40. Here's the thread.
http://www.themalibucrew.com/forums/index.php?/topic/57620-24-skateboard-ramp-wedge-yes-please/