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I agree that at the new price points, some of the value goes away. The questions then becomes do you want an I/O vs. a jet? Along with that comes more expensive maintenance, winterization, bent props, potential injury, etc. It seems to me the mindset used to be that you bought a jet boat for a number of reasons including that they are cheaper. Now you are just looking at the other reasons. I have a hard time thinking that I can buy a Bryant Calandra for less than an E-Series with a tower. That said, I love easy winterization, the safety of the jet and the fact that this forum can solve almost any issue in minutes. Still would be hard to leave.
I agree that at the new price points, some of the value goes away. The questions then becomes do you want an I/O vs. a jet? Along with that comes more expensive maintenance, winterization, bent props, potential injury, etc. It seems to me the mindset used to be that you bought a jet boat for a number of reasons including that they are cheaper. Now you are just looking at the other reasons. I have a hard time thinking that I can buy a Bryant Calandra for less than an E-Series with a tower. That said, I love easy winterization, the safety of the jet and the fact that this forum can solve almost any issue in minutes. Still would be hard to leave.
Hard to leave yes, Not so hard to not buy the flag ship model and put in your own options and be LOTS of money ahead. All of those options do not account for the price jump.
I think I have 150 bucks in my Bluetooth touch screen automated ballast system.
IMO I think this boat is going to sell faster than Yamaha can manufacture (stock market permitting). The Limited S up to this point needed substantial modifications to make it capable of being a surf/wakeboard boat. Now, you get the package deal and it's still $20-30K cheaper than an equivalent surf/wakeboard boat. The person buying this boat wants a 24' Tige or Mastercraft X-35, but because of the $120k price this will be a great option. I see value.
IMO I think this boat is going to sell faster than Yamaha can manufacture (stock market permitting). The Limited S up to this point needed substantial modifications to make it capable of being a surf/wakeboard boat. Now, you get the package deal and it's still $20-30K cheaper than an equivalent surf/wakeboard boat. The person buying this boat wants a 24' Tige or Mastercraft X-35, but because of the $120k price this will be a great option. I see value.
MC might be that much but you do t really need to actually spend much more than 72k to get a VERY nice vdrive wakeboat. Remember, the prices on those boats Are a mere suggestion and often have a lot of wiggle room. Buddy of mine had a local dealer down to 76k on a new Malibu 23LSV. At the pint where you are considering 72k for the X as a water sports boat, what's another 4k for one that is arguably far superior for that purpose? Don't get me wrong, I hope peoe but and love them, but I have a hard time seeing them in the se league as something like a Malibu vlx or lsv for wake sports.
MC might be that much but you do t really need to actually spend much more than 72k to get a VERY nice vdrive wakeboat ... but I have a hard time seeing them in the same league as something like a Malibu vlx or lsv for wake sports.
Ya gotta be careful when addressing all things .......... but boating is MORE at times than Wake Sports. Have ya ever tried to BACK UP a VLX or LSV ??? I have and there is no comparison to a Yamaha.
Every choice has drawbacks, but Yamaha DOES provide enough quality differences in other areas that allow the brand to be a top considered choice for those purchasing a boat.
'Jes sayin' ........... LOL .......... Y'all play nicely in the sandbox. I gotta go do some work. Byeeeeeeeeeee
No. :-(
We are the opposite regarding the bimini. We never considered a tower due to lack of bimini/shade. Very rarely have we been on the water when shade wasn't at a premium.
strokes/folks-
Back in the Yamaha saddle, again. Had a 232 LS when they first came out, and them moved up to sailing catamaran and longer off-shore trips for the past 5 years. And we're back!
Picked up our X this past weekend.
Only significant modification from factory is the upgrade of batteries, to AGM's.
Looking forward to seeing you all on the water and we will most definitely be making the trip to Bimini. We are down in FL mid June, so looking to make trip then. Hope to be with other Yammers.
It's in the driveway for now so let me know if there are any questions.
@Julian Is there any talk you have heard of the implementation of their Helm Master controls into this? In my opinion, all that is lacking from being able to is for them to make the steering drive by wire as well. Am I wrong? I would be first in line if/when they do.
@ACrews Not a word in this regards. But you are correct, the already have servo control throttles and buckets, all they would need is steering - and independent steering (each nozzle would have to have to be able to move independently). Both of those and the computer to run it wouldn't be cheap, and not sure how many 24' open bow boat owners would want to pay for that. Now put that in a 26' jet cabin cruiser..... hummmm
Any thoughts on Yamaha coming out with a 20' or 22' model? An AR200 with twin TR-1's might be the perfect boat especially since the supercharged motor is so inefficient in the 19's. I'm thinking as long as they are redesigning the haul this maybe a possibility. AR200 or Ar220, TR-1's, forward swept tower, sound deadening, rudder (similar to the 24's, do not make the rudder hang below the haul), and a larger bimi top that can be up when towing. Or use these ideas on a AR210. IF YOU MAKE IT PEOPLE WILL BUY IT!!! Not that I'm in the market for a top of the line boat, but if I'm buying a boat with ballast give me hard tanks, not bags. Bottom line bring back the AR in a 20, 21 or 22 foot with the TR-1's. One more thing if the TR-1's are so much smaller how about making some more storage, as a family you can never have enough storage.
If they don't make one of these, I will have to purchase something else. I don't want a 24' but I want twin engines in a affordable package.
My assumption is that the 212x is what they will stick with for that length for those that want towers. I hope they put the sound deadening in all their models next year!
I like the idea of tanks vs bags.....especially if you can fill them FAST!
